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trietias
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Hi all,

I've been working with AppGameKit for about a month now, and usually use examples from the forums, other games, or the samples provided with AGK. This has been enough until now, but my next game is going to include a boss monster, and I just wanted to know how people typically code the behaviour for something like that. I couldn't find anything when I searched...

Would all of the monsters behaviours be encapsulated inside it's own function?

So something like

function MonsterBehaviour()
if energy = full
use fire breath
endif

if distance between monster and character <5
use claw attack
endif

if distance between monster and character > 5
Set monster x position closer to character
endif
endfunction


etc etc.

Would it be something like that? Where I just have a bunch of conditionals inside a single monster behaviour function?

Any insight would be much appreciated!

Thank you!
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BatVink
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Posted: 17th Aug 2015 23:06 Edited at: 17th Aug 2015 23:08
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I would use a State Machine. The monster is always in a specific state (WALK, IDLE, ATTACK, FLEE etc). Based on that state you run the associated code. Within that code the state can change to another state when certain conditions are met.

Here's a very simple example...



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trietias
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Hi Batvink, thanks for the quick response!

If I'm already using a state machine for the general outline of my game, would using a nested one cause any problems?

For example, another game I was working on a few weeks ago was using nested SELECT statements:



Inside the nested select statement, I had to keep calling UpdateChar() and UpdateHUD() in each one, instead of putting it outside the select statement right after "Case 1:". It could have been because of the structure of my code that I had to do that, but is doing that something to be expected?
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Posted: 18th Aug 2015 01:17 Edited at: 18th Aug 2015 01:19
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I try to avoid case statements, in my opinion I find them more cumbersome in a basic language. That's just my personal opinion! Don't take it as law lol.

But I agree with BatVink, you need to set it up so the boss has "state's".



Keep it simple and may I suggest using an extension file to program your boss's 'states' and conditions so you don't confuse yourself later in production.

Good luck!



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trietias
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Thanks for the feedback! I'm playing around with the case statements right now, but I should put the monster's actions in another file haha.
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Uncle Martin
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@trietias
You can nest levels within state machines, as long as you have separate variables that keep track of the states & sub-states. I usually don't go beyond 2 levels.

For example, your monster could be idle, but is also pacing. So IDLE might be your state & PACING is your sub-state witin IDLE, as opposed to NAPPING sub-state.

Have fun.

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Posted: 12th Sep 2015 00:59 Edited at: 12th Sep 2015 01:03
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The finite state machine idea is definitely the way to go (imo). At least from what I have seen/done in other utilities like Leadwerks or even modding Project Zomboid, they seem to use the same methodology.

I like to make a States type. This is used in other State "sub types" like my ActorState and GameState. These states are then utilized in the respective types I designed them for: actors, levels, menus etc. I then utilize several general flags in the form of Strings(which I define in globally in a Globals file) in an If Then Else thingy (like JLMoondog I prefer to stay away from cases in BASIC) which is encapsulated in each Actor type's agc file.

The only thing I am unsure of is how taxing it is for Tier 1 to go through so many conditionals every Loop cycle; especially when iterating through a bunch of assets.

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Quote: "The only thing I am unsure of is how taxing it is for Tier 1 to go through so many conditionals every Loop cycle; especially when iterating through a bunch of assets."


The SELECT statement drops out as soon as it hits the relevant CASE. So it is wise to put them in the most efficient order. For example, the chronological order might be:

GAMESTART
GAMEPLAY
GAMEEND

where GAMEPLAY accounts for 99% of the time. So the correct order for an efficient state machine would be:

GAMEPLAY
GAMESTART
GAMEEND

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