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Geek Culture / Apple Computers...?

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HowdyDewdy
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Posted: 26th Dec 2003 23:56
Ok, I've looked aroudn the apple site and am pretty confused. If someone can help me......
1)Whats the diffeence between the G4 and 5's and Imacs...and some are older then others, why do they still sell them?
2)Are all apple computers called macs?
3)which do you recommened buying
4)is DB/DBP workable on apples?
THANKS

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HowdyDewdy
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 00:06
Thanks but, if G5 is the newest, why are they still selling Imacs and G4's?

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dark coder
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 00:15
why do they still sell, p3`s?,

because not everyone wants to spend that much on a pc

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HowdyDewdy
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ok, i see. they keep the pre G5's available incase eople want cheaper PC's? Makes sense

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Everyone just ignore that immature, stupid idiotic child known as G3ri, while I and the other mods delete his annoying, senseless idiotic posts.


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Ian T
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Yessir .

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indi
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 01:48
if you want a serious multimedia computer then get a g4 / g5.

www.apple-history.com is a good site to look at them all.
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 06:23 Edited at: 27th Dec 2003 06:23
Quote: "G3ri. He is popular.hehe."
Yeah, just like Hitler, Saddam, and Bin Laddin

The only beef I got against Apple is how limiting some of there computers are when it comes to adding drives and stuff. I mean a number of there computers didn't even have a 3.5 floppy drive. They also were nearly impossible to upgrade without spending some serious dough. Of course that was a few years ago I haven't really kepted up with Apple, perhaps they fixed those flaws.


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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 09:58 Edited at: 27th Dec 2003 09:58
hah, G5s are not "fastest computer ever"


Anyway, and oversimplified version of Unix that hardly has any software you can use on it is hardly a good buy. Especially with the good $1000 mark up you pay.


No, you cannot run DB on a mac.

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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 10:19
dark uses direct x so lee would proberly have to recode using open gl (EVIL)

indi
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 11:51
you could if the apple program in a unix variant state or original mac source of "virtual pc" was quick enough for a demanding task like games, but when you play back to back first person shooters the open GL port of the mac usually runs a lot faster in many regards, unless of course it was coded badly etc.. macs are tools for multimedia and I get paid a tidy sum to use them for a variety of multimedia tasks.

People who dont need to know how computers work seem to be more of the consumer but yet have a passion for something and mostly video editing and photography. Multimedia Studios always deploy them as well as print studios. Ive had mates who were lvl 2 technicians ( apple doesnt do that any more tho, its a yearly test to keep your certificate ) and get to repair drives in broken laptops in sydney for people working at fox studios. Its very interesting to hear tid bits of info he gleans

windows now suffers from so many types of virii and its well documented over the 50000 mark. This in itself is hardly the environment for macs benching in under 300.

now that apple has moved over to unix based systems it will be evident that unix like compromises and virii can be introduced.

I reckon tho you could natively install windows onto a mac if you didnt use a mac partitions and perhaps did a ntfs partition and tried win 2k and up, Ive installed mklinux onto my risc based machine without any sight nor wiff of any apple OS under its hood.

Ive still got many macs in my studio, Id really like a g5 tower with a dual head for sure simply for its wonderfull speed in regards to image editing and video editing, not to mention audio composition, creation and editing.


without macs there might not have been so many firsts so soon.

heres a small list of things they did first so you can be assured
they play an important place in the history of computers.


first personal computer
first color monitor
first Floppy Disk Drive
first mouse
first speech technology
first animation technology
first plug and play
first laserwriter
first foreign language upport
first color matching screen, scanner, printer
first soundsupport
first color matching screen, scanner, printer
first sound input
first virtual reality
first 3.5 Disk Drive
first virtual programing / hypercard
first CD-Rom
first Built in Networking
rograming / hypercard
first CD-Rom
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 15:13
Not sure about the first computer - There were BBC Atoms and those build-yourself-kits around, I think, before Apple came on the scene


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Andy
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Posted: 27th Dec 2003 20:29
>HowdyDewdy<

>1)Whats the diffeence between the G4 and 5's and Imacs...

G4 and G5 are 2 different generations of Processors, so the G5 support newer technology and offer more processing power.

>and some are older then others, why do they still sell them?

Because not everybody wants an SMP capable 64-bit G5.

2)Are all apple computers called macs?

iMac, eMac or PowerMac.

3)which do you recommened buying

Unless you have a specific purpose where Mac is the only choice, I would not recommend buying one.

4)is DB/DBP workable on apples?

No, DB/DBP are PC programs and thus cannot run natively on a Mac... However, by using various emulators, you can run PC programs through software emulation, but expect the software to run 75 percent slower. It really isn't worth it.


>indi<

>I reckon tho you could natively install windows onto a mac if you
>didnt use a mac partitions and perhaps did a ntfs partition and
>tried win 2k and up, Ive installed mklinux onto my risc based
>machine without any sight nor wiff of any apple OS under its hood.

Are you seriously suggesting that it is possible to install an I386 native OS on PowerPC based hardware?

>heres a small list of things they did first so you can be assured
>they play an important place in the history of computers.

The majority of the inventions you credit to Apple were infact made by IBM or Xerox up to 7 years before Apple was even founded.

Andy
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Posted: 29th Dec 2003 21:14
@indi: you forgot first usb, first firewire and you said built in networking twice, there wore almost definately pc's around before macs

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