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3 Dimensional Chat / Dark basic doesn't support multiple uv channels????

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shiny
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Posted: 17th Jan 2004 23:59
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Oh my, if this is the case I am going to hit myself for buying dbpro. The whole reason I bought it was because I thought I would be able to create characters with bump maps, specular maps, etc, and naturally they would need different uvw maps to be effective. Also, why is it so hard to get dark maps? By the looks of things people are DOUBLING their level geometry just to make them work! Shouldn't it be as simple as having the dark map stored in the 2nd uv channel? Without this abbility i would have to bake shadows directly into the defuse textures, or use the same uv map on a copy of the level geometry which would kill a pc's resources.

Can anyone shed some light on multitexturing in Dark basic pro? Or do I have to run home dragging my tail behind me and pleeding for a refund?

Thankyou.

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APEXnow
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Posted: 18th Jan 2004 00:03
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This is a known issue and will be resolved when Update 6 is released. I've already discussed this on DBDN and proved it using two texture stages with FVF memblock. Lee did send me a temporary fix to see if it worked, and it did.

Won't be long before this is dealt with now,

Paul.


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John H
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Posted: 18th Jan 2004 00:25
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Ive done it before, I had 3 maps on an object. Sometimes if you export your object from whatever 3D Modeller with all the textures applied, then have your model and textures all in the same folder when you load the model into DB, sometimes its textured

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APEXnow
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Yeah, but the point is that multiple textured meshes will always use the first set of UV mappings and not each other's UV mappings. Hence that's why second layer textures on meshes for lightmaps etc are extremely difficult to fabricate with the current version of DBPro without the need for two meshes.

Paul.


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shiny
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I am glad this is planned to be fixed in the near future. Roughly how long untill update 6 is released? And will I be able to get this as a free upgrade?

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Posted: 18th Jan 2004 01:25 Edited at: 18th Jan 2004 01:26
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I couldn't say when the Update 6 is released but it can't be too long now, maybe a few weeks.... And the upgrade is free, if you're using the full version of DBPro. Just select Game Development/Dark BASIC Professional from the web's menu at the top and select Downloads/Upgrades.

Updates will be notified via the forum, DarkBASIC Newsletter and of course the main site's main page.


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QuothTheRaven
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I've used 15 textures on a single object. But if you want them to overlap, you gotta use 2 objects.

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AlecM
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This is possible now through DBO.

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walaber
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Froogermon: is this possible with the current incarnation of the .dbo file format, or do you mean that is will be possible upon the relase of upgrade 6?

I know dreamflower and the creator of gile[s] lightmapper were working on a .dbo exporter for gile[s], based on the currently released format, and they were both having trouble getting multiple UV coordiantes to work. I regularly check the forum over there, but the activity on the .dbo exporter has died down, I assumed they were waiting for the release of upgrade 6...

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Posted: 19th Jan 2004 12:43
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Rob has made a DBO converter, I haven't tested it but download it from the Program Announcements forum and give it a try.


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Ok. Objects created and imported using the .DBO format do support multistage texturing, but the layers still use the first UV mappingos on the first texture. It's not the format of the file that matters, it's DarkBASIC's rendering pipeline. Doesn't matter how you get the multitextured object into DB, it will always render using the same UV maps as your first texture. It's been proven.

Nothing will happen until U6. Whether it'd be .3DS, .X, .DBO, MDL or whatever.

Paul.


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walaber
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understood! waiting patiently

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me too )

coming soon
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AlecM
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Posted: 28th Jan 2004 00:33
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Apex is right I misread my source.

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