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stann65
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hi all,
you may or may not of heard me talking about how i am going to purchase darkBASIC when i get the money.

Well i now get the money on the 16/02/04 (i get £100 for my old computer) and i am going to buy:

DarkBasic,DarkMATTER,DarkBASIC archive vol.1, and cartography shop in a bundle for £76.99 and plus the 700 page book for DarkBasic.

as soon as i get these programs has anyone got any ideas on what i should start on first as a sort of test.All opinions will be appreciated

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when you say "Dark Basic" you mean PRO right?

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start on a 2d game =P

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stann65
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Posted: 9th Feb 2004 18:48
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i don't mean pro

@underlord someone told me 2d was a waste of time and to hop straight into 3D. why do 2D first?

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2d will give you good experience and is a good way to hone your skills it is easy to make 2d games....well sort of but if you hop right into 3d you'll probably get lost and end up wasteing more time learning stuff you could have learned while making a 2d game.

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ok that makes a lot of sence so i'll start with 2D.
And i'm hoping that 700 page book helps me a lot.

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I'v looked at that book at barns and noble and it had some nice stuff in there. But reading the accompanying manual helps alot too since like 20 pages of the manual for DBP have all the basic stuff and teach you how to use the basic commands. Helps alot once you read tutorials and stuff.

Are you getting DBP or DBC?

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that sounds good then.

so with a bit of effort i'll be off in no time.

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Yeah now answer this....

Are you usingf DBC (DarkBasic Classic) or DBP (Dark Basic Professional)?

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DBC

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Ok yeah i have never made a 2d game in DBC =P or DBP but im working on one in DBP

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hows it coming along

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It's good practice just to change things in the Demo's that come with Dark Basic. One DB example has a cone, like a wirlwind, that bounces over a landscape. It's quite easy to change the cone for an aircraft, or Hovercraft, or car. Then you have made a simple flight sim, or driving game. Then you can easily add buildings to the landscape....or a snowman...lol! Then you can edit the texture on the car, or Plane to make it your own design. Like put your name on the car bonnet, or your avatar. Easy things that will teach you something new each time. Next make the plane fligh higher, faster, add engine sounds, move the camera to a new position, etc.

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that sounds good too i'll give that a try to.

Does DarkBASIC come with a thing were you can save your stuff into an .exe format

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Yes, you can save an exe as a single file, or you can save an exe with the media in seperate folders.

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yay cuase i want to put some basic examples on my site.

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if you buy the full version, it creates exe files

lagmasteruk - http://www.lagmaster.net is alive! http://www.dbforums.co.uk/ - another db forum!

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what you mean full version?

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get PRO right off the bat - you'll just end up buying it later anyway as dbc is, well, leaves much to be desired when compared to pro. Not to mention dbc is no longer supported or updated, where dbp still is...

your choice tho.

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oh good points i did not know that you may have saved me some money thanks.

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remember I get 10% of savings

(what! you didn't see the fine print)

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lol,

i must of missed the fine print
(i'll have to change my name and move to slovenia)

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ok if anyone asks i was with u all of yestersday.....you got that

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check.

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Uncle sam's got his men after me

i'll get my-self a disguise

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ok I am in my disguise too...
now what?

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i don't know i think i might turn-myself in to the sherif

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

Never start in 2D

START IN 3D


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no no 2d is good pratice like pincho said! damn it!

my game is coming along nicely now but i still need lots of help with a few hard things thanks to pet_rat i'v sovled the first couple problems. Now i have a new set. but that can all be found on the 2d boards!

But for now im just messing around with it weee its fun to play with 2d =)

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Start with TEXT! For like the first couple of days, until you understand data types and arrays (when i was learning i skipped this bit) then do 2D stuff (I also skipped this bit) then play with 3D(I started here)...........and I'm possibly the worsed coder ever. I've now had to go back and learn stuff I should have learned 3 years ago :S I suck

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@ chris knott

i just read your 'first pong game' tutorial that you posted on necomers corner thingy and it was great even though i only understood half it.

But i think it was pincho made some good points of if you start off in 3D you will not learn valuable things that you would of learnt if you had of started in 2D. So have you got any reasons why to start in 3D.

and can you also answer do 3D objects all revolve around the Z axis?

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