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Megaman X
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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 00:21
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What format is that? I've downloaded some models in that format but what is that? How can I open? How can I convert? :S I thought should be like MD2

Well, thanks in advance
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rapscaLLion
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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 00:45
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The MDL format DB loads is the quake model format... there are many formats named MDL though, so I would ensure that it is the correct QUAKE mdl format, and not another one with the same name. I ran into that a few times...

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Puffy
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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 06:17
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get it... MDl ... like md1... quake... md2 ... quake2... md3... quake3... WOWOWOWOWOWOW... it all makes sense... like the opening of a book... CRUSHING A FLOWER... goth poetry... it doesnt have to rhyme... its just gotta be about death and lonelyness...

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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 12:52
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rapscaLLion: huge thanks bub But have u any idea if it's possible to convert that format to .X or something like that?

DarthPuff: Ahhhh, the gothic culture is wonderful, ins't? Just like I feel all the time :/

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Puffy
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hehe... yeh im sure... what about when you get a bug worked out after a long time.. are you full of death then... O_O

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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 18:22
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I think milkshape creates these files.

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 27th Nov 2002 23:39
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i though the dbpro mdl was Half-Life... i mean the formats arn't the same so how does it load the HL mesh? hehee

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i dunno about that raven... .bsp is a halflife world... =\ ummm i think...

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Posted: 28th Nov 2002 01:01
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Oh yes, that's right. But the first ever modeler I heard of with that format was milkshape, man, that was like 4 or 5 years ago

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Posted: 28th Nov 2002 01:36
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yup... and we all love milkshape..

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Thanks for the replies I never tried milkshape... Is it free??? Where can I get it??? I cannot afford for an icecream this month

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lol ... i know of 3 forms of MDL
GameStudio MDL
Quake1 MDL
and Half-Life Compiled Model MDL

i'm pretty sure dbpro only uses HL MDL, could be wrong - but the demo has gone all funny on me so i can't check until the official copy arrives i suppose.

as for BSP... depending on the version depends on who made it and what its used for.

right now DBpro supports Quake2,HL,Quake3 BSP (versions 38-53 i think)

lastly Milkshape is at http://www.milkshape3d.com and is €20 (^_^) so not too much and is quite worth it.

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yeh... O_O I PAID FOR MINE... like i "pay" for everything...

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Posted: 28th Nov 2002 14:48
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Man, I've just downloaded Milkshape. For it's price, it's more than tough. I never saw so many export/import options and the soft loads in few seconds, diferently from Max, which is damn expensive, takes a long to open/render and needs plugin for everything. I will run some tuts... Looks like one more thing I am going to buy next month Thanks for tips.

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I am pretty sure DBPro supports the Half Life MDL format.

To clarify .BSP, Half Life is based on the Quake engine (ONE or TWO, cant remember which. not Q3), so it uses a modified version of the Quake .BSP format. The term BSP itself refers to a general concept of Binary Space Partionining. All Quake and Half Life based games use the .BSP format, however usually slightly modified.

DBPro supports Quake 2, Quake 3 and Half Life .BSP maps, as well as its on version that you create with the compiler. I also thought it supported Castle Wolfenstien, but it doesn't seem to say that.

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erm thanks Eprodigy ...
i'm pretty sure i cover'd all the versions hehee
BSP has barely changed between companies, and all have been given a version number to let you know who made it and what it supports.

if you check the second DWORD of data from a BSP file you'll get told which version it is.

RTCW,MOHAA,JK2, blah blah, are just slightly updated version of Quake3 BSP - and the actual mesh is no different at all. So you should be able to load without problems. Just like you can with all Half-Life maps

if someone could try out which MDL DBpro actually supports would be good hehee.

Oh and lastly Rouge really is well worth it, i'd download the SDK because if you make something for it - a plugin like an exporter|importer or such you get a free copy.
Oki €20 isn't much to anyone, but for me was actually more of a symbolic copy to know i've done a good job in something i'm pretty useless at

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 01:08
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The Half-Life format is occasionally referred to as "BSP 3."

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yeh... =P hehe... hey mirthin look at your cig... got that smiley now... =\ i liked the evil one..=D

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hmm never heard it refer'd to as that ... i know the Wad files are 3

i've only really heard BSP39 or HL BSP
Bah! no matter if it runs it runs, who cares whats its called hehee

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because then you know who to pay for the technology =D.... but i dont think that matters

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the under lying technology is all id's so what does it matter who upgraded it

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yeh =D i guess... dont have to pay anyone anymore...

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hehee... you ever think that we should just talk on msn rather than cloggin' up the forums?

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You're probably right 'bout that WAD thing,

Darthpuff, I don't know how it happened!

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