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Program Announcements / EARTH - free windows based matrix editor

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Robin
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Posted: 1st Mar 2004 12:02 Edited at: 22nd Mar 2004 11:38
Hi,

Earth is now finished. Earth is a windows based matrix editor for use with Dark Basic Classic and Pro. See below for a feature list, screenshots and a download link:

Features:
New
Open
Save
Export .X
Exit

Wireframe On/Off
Ghost On/Off
Change Matrix Trim
Change Camera Range

Raise Height
Lower Height
Input Height
Randomize
Flatten
Smooth
Make Hill
Make Dip
Load Texture
Set Texture
Map Height

Select Point
Select None







For futher information visit:
http://www.thegameszone.tk
or to download straight away, please go to:
http://www.darkemotion.com
and click on earth at the top of the page

Hope you find it usefull, please post any comments etc.
Robin

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Surreal Studio IanG
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Posted: 1st Mar 2004 21:57
your still using the original ide then?
switch to the blue ide it's better

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Posted: 2nd Mar 2004 06:54
it looks cool but geocities is not being nice to me now. If you want when I finally DL it, I can host the file for you on my server and you can make a mirrior dl for it to my server that way if one link is not working for some reason you always have another place to dl it from.

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Robin
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2004 17:46
Quote: "your still using the original ide then?
switch to the blue ide it's better "

Do you mean the windows menus? - I'm using the free windows menu dll by Rob K

Great_Knight:
If you could host the file, that would be great - let me know if you can download it and then upload it onto your server - yeah i'm using the free geocities account which is almost at it's limit and i think it cuts out everytime someone downloads it :-(. Email me if you can get it downloaded: robin@thegameszone.tk

Thanks very much,
Robin

ps. Anyone manage to download it at all??

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adr
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2004 00:57
I could host it for you temporarily... consider using www.dbforums.co.uk, or www.dbspot.com

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2004 22:38
haven't managed to d/l yet, tryed once a day since you started this thread!

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2004 22:53
I actually managed to download it (I think) and I got an "unexpected end of archive" error.

Robin
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Posted: 4th Mar 2004 13:54
hmmmm..
I can download it at the moment
keep trying - if anyone does manage to download it, let me know
I'll try signing up to one of the webhosts you suggested
Robin

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Hamish McHaggis
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Posted: 4th Mar 2004 17:32 Edited at: 4th Mar 2004 17:33
Or try Twilight Editor, try both (I'm trying to get that in wherever possible ).

Looks pretty cool anyway.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2004 08:27
d/l works fine for me. If ppl still have problems, I'll host the file.

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Robin
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Posted: 5th Mar 2004 15:51
ok, I've reuplaoded it in two files now, one containing the actual program, and another containing the help file and demo matrix. Go to my website and try downloading it now:
http://www.thegameszone.tk

Robin

ps. Phaelax - any comments?

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mm0zct
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Posted: 5th Mar 2004 19:51
it's d/ling fine for me, i can also hst if ppl still have probs

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Posted: 5th Mar 2004 19:53
are there supposed to be source files with it?

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Posted: 7th Mar 2004 18:14
lets get some mirrors up people! i still can't download...

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Posted: 7th Mar 2004 18:21
me neither

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Robin
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Posted: 8th Mar 2004 11:36
mm0zct: do you mean files to show you how to load the matrix in your program? if so these are included in the zip file with the exe of earth in

If anybody can download both zip files from my site, I would be very grateful if you could put all the files from both zips into one zip, and then upload it onto your site (if you want to )

Thanks,
Robin

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Posted: 8th Mar 2004 15:20
I'll upload a mirror tonight if I can remember. I tried using the program and it was way too fast! The mouselook was uncontrollably quick, and the help messages across the bottom changed every 0.5 seconds or so....

Specs: Intel P4 2Ghz, 512MB RAM, nVidia 5600 Ultra...

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Posted: 8th Mar 2004 15:28
Oh right - sorry about that my computer isn't as good as yours lol - i'll set the sync rate to something other than 0 and reupload it tommorow. i'll repost when i've updated it, so if you could wait until then, and then download it again, that would be great

Robin

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Robin
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Posted: 10th Mar 2004 17:39
Ok, sorry about that, just reuploaded the main file - now with the sync rate set - please download and let me know what you think
And if someone could put both zip files into one, and upload it somewhere, that would be great,
Thanks
Robin

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Epimetheus
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 01:10
THANK YOU Robin!!!
you dont know how long I been waiting (and even attempting to make my own) matrix editor that has all those features in it!
you are definitely getting a spot on the credits of any games I make that use matrixes made in it.
once again THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. only one problem encounted so far when trying to import a matrix as an X file in DarkBASIC Pro, oh well, no problem just have to use normal matrixes
Oh, and one more time THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robin
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 13:12
thanks - glad to see it is of use
yeah I removed the 'export as .x file' feature from this version because it didn't export the textures with the matrix which was kind of pointless (I was using a code snippet someone gave me) - I'm now writing my own function to export the matrix as a .x file, with all the textures exactly as they are, which is almost finished now, and looking pretty good

I hope to continue updating Earth whenever I can - a new version with shortcut keys and a few minor bug fixes will be released in the near future

Robin

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ReD_eYe
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Posted: 13th Mar 2004 14:26
finally managed to download! turns out it wasn't a problem with geocities but it was the simple fact that you used backslashes in the download link, and netscape browsers don't recognise this so i changed it and it downloaded fine

... and its a great editor, i love the way you do hills and dips, also the windows file loader(i'd love to know how you get that working )

it all seems to work pretty well(haven't tried importing into my own project yet) but the main thing that annoys me is the camera, if you use it, then press space, move the mouse around abit, then click to use the camera again, it rotates and messes up your view, meaning you have to reposition the camera again.
try this function:



it was made by robk and because of the r=mousemovex() etc. bit at the end it won't mess up the camera when you reselect it

the only other problem i had was that when i click on new, the create matrix box is all screwed up(as in doesn't show up), this seems to only be a problem on my computer as it happens on other dbp programs aswell, i'm guessing it uses a textured plain? would it be possible to change it to a sprite, just for me ?

otherwise great work, is there a keyboard key that sets the texture? if not those shortcuts will be mighty useful.

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Robin
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Posted: 15th Mar 2004 11:53
Thanks for the comments Red Eye,
Yeah, the camera is very poor at the moment - i'll give that code you suggested a try - thanks. The 'new matrix' dialogue box is a sprite - does it work when you first load up the program, or does it only not work if you go to new after you created a matrix?
'T' on the keyboard sets the texture - I've just uploaded a new version, which has shortcut keys as follows:
+ : Raise selected point/s
- : Lower selected point/s
T : Texture tile/s with current texture
A : Select next texture
Z : Select previous texture
Ins/0 (NumPad) : Input Height

Robin

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ReD_eYe
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Posted: 15th Mar 2004 20:41
hmmm, the new matrix box doesn't work full stop, it just shows a kinda fuzzy blurred image which sometimes looks like whats behind the window I really have no clue what the problem could be, i'll try and replicate it in one of my own programs. Nice work on adding the shortcuts, i'll download the new version later, as i'm abit busy right now

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Posted: 16th Mar 2004 01:14
looks very nice.. but crashes on my win 2k computer...
Robin
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Posted: 16th Mar 2004 17:45
starstrike: strange - what are your specs, and how does it crash? I have windows XP Pro and it works :-s

Red Eye: What windows do you have?

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Windows XP Home
and i've found the problem with sprites, it seems that on my comp, when you load an image with the optional flag
eg. Load Image "Image1.bmp",1,1
and then use that image in a sprite, it screws up for me. Anyone know why this happens???
Sys Specs:
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If I choose new matrix and want to edit the size of it, it clear what was in the box, but I cant type any new values.. (or do anything at all) Have to close program.
sometimes program just disappear.. when Im moving around in matrix or add textures.
Robin
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Redeye: Thanks for the code snippet btw. works a treat I can't remember if i've set the optional flag on the load image command to one - I'll check that out later - it I have, i'll try changing it and uploading the new version. - I think it's got to do with a graphics card setting (Anyone any ideas? Mipmapping?)

Starstrike: Ermmm. I don't know whats going on there... what windows do you have, and what are your system specs? the dialogue box for a new matrix is a sprite, and the text in the other boxes disappear when you click in one of the boxes to enter a value, but then when you press return, they should all appear again...

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Posted: 21st Mar 2004 02:58
Hi all!

Here's a mirror site http://www.darkemotion.com

This is my website and it's still under some serious construction but the forums work. Not very special forums BUT they DO work.

Enjoy
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Thanks very much Download earth from the above website now !!!

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2004 15:45
Seems that the link http://www.darkemotion.com/Earth.zip goes nowhere? I am interested in trying this software...
Robin
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sorry about that:
go to http://www.darkemotion.com
and click on the banner for Earth

Robin
ps. Please let me know what you think

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That's what I did. I click on the banner, and get a classic 404 error from the Apache server.
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sorry about that - i'll get it touch with the person who's hosting it for me.
You can try downloading it from my geocities account:
(Copy and paste)
http://www.geocities.com/thegameszonehasit/download/earth/earth.zip

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Posted: 24th Mar 2004 15:54
That's a really good matrix editor (considering the fact that it's free), simple and effective.

Perhaps you could make the mouse disappear when you are in moving the camera. Also, make the camera move like a standard FPS, maybe using the arrow keys to strafe and move forward and backwards.

I didn't tried it to the fullest, but so far looks good.
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Oops! Try from the above site again... Classic error from my server! They had some problems with my account and hence the download. I've rectified it and it should work!!!!

I guarantee it!!!

Enjoy
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In fact, the link is

http://www.darkemotion.com/Earth/earth.zip

Case sensitive!

Enjoy
Robin
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cheers

RAMBO PM:
thanks for commenting,
In the next release I will be including different view modes - ie. 'walk on matrix' and 'fly around matrix'

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Robin - I just downloaded and tried it real quick. Nice program! It is a very intuitive program and I am looking forward to seeing what it can do.

The first time I tried it, I just stayed with the defaults and I tried the + and - action. I did notice that moving from grid point to grid point with the arrow keys was not real precise. I had to hit and release the arrow key very quickly to be able to move precisely.

Like, I said above - this is a great program. Just what I was looking for last night while playing around with matrixes and realizing how difficult it was to get my mind around it.
Robin
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thanks for the comments,
You must have quite a good computer, which would be why its running quite fast - I have already implemented a feature into version 2 so you can set then display res., colour depth and the speed of the editor, but version two will not be released for a while yet,

Robin

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Robin
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Posted: 30th Mar 2004 13:47
OK here is a list of the features I have added so far to Version 2 (Not yet released):
-Change display mode (res,colour depth)
-Change backdrop colour
-Change heightmap Scale
-A new arrow pointer
-'Latest files' sub menu in the file menu (Like in the DBP editor)
-Export as .X is very nearly complete

Many minor bug fixes, including one with making hills, and several to do with opening and creating new matrices, selecting points etc.



What features do you want added??
I'm starting to run out of ideas now - please feel free to post any features at all you would like to see, and I'll see what I can do.

BTW. Any more feedback?

Robin

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Your editor wont let me export my maps to x files even though it says it can! what version can do it!!!

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Robin
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Flame Master,
I was planning on including this feature in version 1 of earth, but am still having a few problems with loading up the .x files in DBP... If I can get this fixed, then the feature will be included in version 2 (Which I plan to release soon). Sorry for the inconvienience - though you can still load up the matrix in dbp using the example code included,
Robin

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Does this program help people built planets? Could I import 3D Models and raise or lower land using a sphere as terrain?
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I don't quite understand. You can create a rocky planet landscape if you have some nice textures too...But you can't import 3d models into Earth, you'll have to do that yourself in DB

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