CattleRustler: thats not a reasonable compare, since the non ultra FX are just slower (lower memory and clock speeds), MX had major functionality missing compared to the same number Ti, I had a Geforce 4MX and it was more like a GF2, no shaders for a start, the basic FX cards do have all the functionality of the ultras, just slower due to slower clockspeeds and ram, you would expect that for the price difference anyway...unless you where hopelessly optimistic
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1: P4 hyperthreading 3ghz, 1gig mem, 2x160gig hd`s, ATI radeon 9800 pro gfx, 6 way surround sound, 2: AMD 1.2ghz, 512mb ram, FX5200 ultra gfx, stereo 16 bit soundblaster, ups.