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Douglass
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Ive been thinking about this alot for a while and i think im on to something. when you go to a site in your browser, a signal is sent to your isp and then to some sort of central computer which has a list of where all the website are located at. right? well all hosts require you to pay money if you want a .com,.org,.net domain etc...
this would lead me to believe that these companies need to pay some money to the company that has the central computer to get the domain listed. however, .tk domains are FREE so this leads me to believe that all domains are actually free and hosting companies are just greedy. so? anyone got any ideas on how to get a free .com?


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spooky
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Posted: 4th Apr 2004 21:51
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Suggest you read the various docs at http://www.dot.tk

It explains why service is free and the various terms and conditions for having a .tk web. I did not know they cut you off if you don't have 25 visitors in a 90 day period.

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Douglass
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 00:11
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where does it explain why .com's cost money?


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indi
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here is some history regarding the domain name

http://www.ahref.com/guides/industry/199903/0323piou2.html


http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/pressingissues2000/briefingbook/dnshistory.html


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Lord Ozzum
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indi, your avatar is kewl......

You're just jealous cuz the voices don't talk to you!!!
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CattleRustler
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 06:08 Edited at: 5th Apr 2004 06:09
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Mr X, thats a great example of a useless post.
You have been here long enough to have seen Indi's avatar plenty of times.


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Lord Ozzum
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 06:32
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your right...but I think it changed...I don't remmeber a bunny rabbit

You're just jealous cuz the voices don't talk to you!!!
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Richard Davey
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 12:53
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Doug - .com domain names cost money for two reasons (1) they don't automatically register themselves, there is administration involved (or the development costs of a backend system to cover) and you therefor pay for this service/time. And also (2) it costs money to run a nameserver (especially with regard to the bandwidth costs).

Nothing in this world is truly free.

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Dave J
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 13:35
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What about apples? Apples are free if you own an apple tree.


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Damokles
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 15:50
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I may add that in 1998 I had my own .com adress under NameZero for free, so I didn't pay anything for it, I just had to do a banner on the site and not those annoying popups and so on.
Isn't there anybody offering .com for free ?

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Emperor Baal
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 16:07
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Quote: "Ive been thinking about this alot for a while and i think im on to something. when you go to a site in your browser, a signal is sent to your isp and then to some sort of central computer "


Lets hope hackers won't *peep* up your "central computer"

It's more likely to be a giant network than a central p1 133mhz

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Eddie Gordo
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Posted: 5th Apr 2004 16:17
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Quote: "What about apples? Apples are free if you own an apple tree."


And Domains are free...if you own a network...

sometimes...i just dont understand life...and sometimes...i'm just so glad its that way...
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Douglass
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Posted: 6th Apr 2004 04:08
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@Richard Davey is there a way to regester one my self and host it on dbspot or something?


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indi
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Posted: 6th Apr 2004 04:29
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Quote: "And Domains are free...if you own a network..."


well thats not really true but if you have a registered domain name server application it would be possible.


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Eddie Gordo
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Posted: 6th Apr 2004 04:40
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indi, i meant internal domains inside your intranetwork, like just your computers and router and servers and such, if you own the network you can do whatever you please inside the network

Formerly Eddie Gordo...
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Douglass
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Posted: 7th Apr 2004 03:05
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SO? I WANNA FREE DOMAIN HOW DO I GET ONE? sorry for the temper...


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indi
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Posted: 7th Apr 2004 09:42
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rent a static ip.
install linux with a dns and leave it running forever.
sell off your own domains and space.


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recycled
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Just buy a domain, they are very cheap now, you can get one for just a few bucks.

http://www.ond.se/vermin/forums <- game design and writing forums
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HZence
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It cost me $10 to buy http://www.mindset1.com.


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Mattman
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Leaves are free!
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DarkSin
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Quote: "Leaves are free! "

... your joking right...? ... DARNIT! I just got done with my 3rd payment on that stupid leaf too... ... such a rip off...


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Pricey
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lolipops


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Posted: 10th Apr 2004 17:00
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judgeing from the speed I thought the net DID have a central PII 133mhz PC running things, wasn`t that on an episode of Dilbert?, found in a lost cubicle or something?

seriously I heard of a university who found their main server walled up in an alcove and had been running fine for years, they only found out it was physicaly lost when they tried to upgrade the network to optical, ran Linux IIRC

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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 16:51
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lolipops


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DK_
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I found a loop hole to getting your own free .com, .gov, .org or any other extension(even a made up one) page.

first go to this web site http://www.netfirms.com/
click the "free web hosting link" and create any web page you want. Now this web site is very limited as to what it allows you to do, it wont even allow you to use HTML!

So once you have made your web site, go to this site:
http://www.50megs.com/
and go to the free link. Then it gives you three options
1. make a web site, but you have to pay for it.
2. create a free sub-domain name.
3. domain transfer.
select option three to transfer the web domain you made with the first web site, and that should do it.

laptop5002@hotmail.com
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AnDrEy
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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 16:56
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some problems with 50 megs like it banned hotlinking totally and I think you were not allowed porn sites

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las6
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apparently, IANA seems to think they own the net.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya_falls_off_net/


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Cookyzue
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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 03:38 Edited at: 17th Apr 2004 06:59
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Phoenix 5002; do you have to use netfirms?

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SubNova
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Doug, how do I get your avatar?(Rip it off and feed the rest of Doug to the Sjhjkjhkjfkjgd!)

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Neofish
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Posted: 18th Apr 2004 03:54
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i think a fisherman owns the net

i'll go jump off a cliff now...

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Mussi
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Posted: 18th Apr 2004 16:01
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well I don't pay for my domain, I get it sponsored



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Darksyde
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Quote: "apparently, IANA seems to think they own the net.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya_falls_off_net/"


Hehe, that's quite humorous


Im willing to find out what impossible means.
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