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Geek Culture / just watching the news google are doing an email thingmagig

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Neil19533
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 11:08
google are curently developing a web based email server which will have 1 gig of space for each user and its free. im wondering how on earth they are to get enought space for it. anyway the site is [href]www.gmail.com[/href]

Any spelling mistakes are totally In tensional.
DarkSin
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 11:17
hmmm who would of thought? If it works out right I know itll make allot people very happy. Though don't think I'd switch...


Jeku
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 12:06
Even if they give everybody 1GB, I doubt the majority of people will use more than 5-10MB, *if* that. That is how they will do it. If they get 5 million users who each have 1GB in their inbox, they will no longer be able to support it! Then again, they have practically cached the entire public Internet, which is absolutely amazing, so I could be wrong.

Dave J
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 16:00
Companies will pay a high price to have their ads shown on google's site because 90% of users choose google as their search engine which means that's a whole lot of people seeing those banners. This means they should easily be able to afford the HDD space, especially of the display ads in the email client as well (not really a problem though, hotmail does it).


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Lord Ozzum
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 20:37
as does yahoo, every place uses ads, I wonder if there will be a GIM?

You're just jealous cuz the voices don't talk to you!!!
Slayer
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 20:41 Edited at: 11th Apr 2004 20:41
But google is the best im going to get this Gmail, they say there
going to have programs to look through are Gmails to give use adds
dipinding on whats typed in are Gmail. I wouldent care if some program
looks at my Gmail.

I dont know how to spell
Richard Davey
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Posted: 11th Apr 2004 23:31
Think about it like this - the Google search index is held in MEMORY. When you run a search on their site, it doesn't happen across a hard drive, it's purely served from RAM. Thousands of banks of it.

Now think how much memory you must need for something like that and you'll realise that disk space is small fry in comparison. 1GB of emails - that'd compress massively if they wanted to.

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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 00:01
Apparently the ads will come in the form of hyperlinked words in the mail. For example, if your mail contains the words "3D Game", they could be hyperlinked to the TGC website.

People are concerned that this means Google are prying into your mails. But then, isn't any ISP / mail service that includes spam and virus filtering? (including Hotmail!)

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Jeku
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 00:06
This is scary stuff. I don't appreciate *any* 3rd party reading MY email. That's just bogus. I haven't used Hotmail in four years because their EULA says they can read your email without permission and even SELL your business ideas if they find them in your emails, without giving you compensation! If you don't believe me about their EULA, read it yourself!

Now I can imagine Google will be a little more responsible, but I'm not one to put it past them.

The only 3rd party that can read my email is the NSA, and I'm okay with that. I live in Canada so I'm not sure if it goes through them. They're just checking for terrorist talk, anyways.

Lord Ozzum
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 00:10
that's one of the reasons I never discuss anything in hotmail, except stuff between friends, I use hotmail for messenger and receiving files from friends

You're just jealous cuz the voices don't talk to you!!!
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 01:16
I still don't know if this is for real or just another Google's "april 1st" jokes...

anyway here's a story on that

http://www.forbes.com/technology/newswire/2004/04/01/rtr1320652.html

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Dave J
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 07:06
Quote: "Apparently the ads will come in the form of hyperlinked words in the mail. For example, if your mail contains the words "3D Game", they could be hyperlinked to the TGC website."


Urghh, I see that on other sites all the time and it gets on my nerves.


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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 10:01
1 GB for 1 user ? If they can provide that much, why don't they offer webspace for homepages ?

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Lord Ozzum
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 10:57
that is a lot....who needs it??
personally, I get a lot of spam, so, naturally, I have to empty it everyday, after not checking it for two months I had 6kb though, nowhere near 1 gb

You're just jealous cuz the voices don't talk to you!!!
cusoi
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Posted: 12th Apr 2004 23:52
Quote: "1 GB for 1 user ? If they can provide that much, why don't they offer webspace for homepages ?
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I guess bandwith would get out of hand..

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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 00:15
im going to get it, but only cos i want lots of email address etc

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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 11:58
Yeah but what they can do is match you infomation when you signed up for the gMail and what you search for... and then, they wont give it but if asked, will hand it over to the Law Enforcement... so clear your search filter!

Just to add to the confusion.
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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 13:15
Well, in my opinion, if you want something for free. you HAVE to expect some sort of advertising, be it from tagging stuff on end of your incoming and outgoing messages or taking a peek at your messages for customized adverts.

Gone are the days of the net giving stuff away for nothing. It just isn't commercially viable.

If you don't want any of this, just go and buy a domain for a few quid a month and be safe in the knowledge that noone will be looking at your messages and everything as advert free.

Get over it.

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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 13:19
my inbox is always full, i signed up good n propp-ur

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Damokles
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Posted: 13th Apr 2004 15:15
Isn't there a way to create our own mail-server on our own computer ?

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Lance Lumpy
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Posted: 17th Apr 2004 18:35
you can get your own mail server at www.zzn.com
there probably is a way to create one on your own computer though...

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Posted: 17th Apr 2004 18:51
Read about this about a month ago. Even if it does have the tacky ad system (a worrying trend in Google recently) I'm stil trying to get david@gmail.com - I just hope I get there soon enough!

Probably not, but it's worth a try.

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