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Geek Culture / Hollywood losing sales battle to games

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MicroMan
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Posted: 15th May 2004 19:29
"Sales of game hardware and software are expected to continue to beat out Hollywood box office revenue annually, but game software sales alone should be able to outdo movie box office within the next five years, according to forecasts from the International Development Group."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1084486208944&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630

The games industry continues to grow and grow, and even now there's more money in games than in Hollywood movies. Then, how come it's so hard to make money on games these days? Piracy can't be the whole problem, if there's such an influx of cash?

Or?

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Arkheii
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Posted: 15th May 2004 19:46
Because movies are pirated just as much as games can be. In the Philippines, movies are released fairly late, so pirated movies come out very early in our case, usually weeks before the movie even screens here.

Of course, my family buys original DVDs


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Ian T
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Posted: 15th May 2004 20:54 Edited at: 15th May 2004 20:55
Quote: "Then, how come it's so hard to make money on games these days? Piracy can't be the whole problem, if there's such an influx of cash?"


Become the big corperations in the industry have an iron grip on 99.5% of the cash

Arkheii
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Posted: 16th May 2004 14:52
There's a lot of money in games, but it's split up among so many people. The biggest shares usually go to the ones who did the least work, and probably know the least about game development.


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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 16th May 2004 15:19
The money for games is mostly on consoles. More DVD's sell than games, but they are much cheaper.

Andy Igoe
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Posted: 17th May 2004 18:12
Because to make money you have to have money.

Because it's hard to find decent independant games amongst all the single level matrix world demos of MMORGS.

Because magazines wont touch your work with a bargpole unless you advertise with them.

Because developing and releasing software for the consoles has been kept deliberately difficult.


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zircher
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Posted: 17th May 2004 21:07 Edited at: 17th May 2004 21:23
Quote: "Because developing and releasing software for the consoles has been kept deliberately difficult.
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As much as I dislike the reality of that statement, I understand the need for tight control. Just look at what happened to Atari back in the 2600 days to see how too much of a good thing devalues the media and drives companies out of business.
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Posted: 17th May 2004 21:13
then XNA should be a good thing for everyone except for Sony, I guess.


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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 17th May 2004 21:13
Bah, that's just an excuse cooked up by the suites to earn more money. Companies that go out of business do so because they aren't selling enough of their product, not because they aren't paying a license fee.

All these fees do is completely illiminate free enterprise and independant game development.

When was the last time you saw a truly original game on a console? The sheer cash and development weight of the giants simply cannot create the diversity of an open market.

Ironically, these license fees are an example of capitalism defeating itself with capitalism.


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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 17th May 2004 21:19
Not to throw a spanner into this at all...
but anyone notice the site where this informational 'fact' is comming from.

Sorry, but i don't read tabloids, online or otherwise. I'm sure they actually lower peoples intelligence.

Just my 2cents


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Ian T
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Posted: 17th May 2004 22:36
Quote: "All these fees do is completely illiminate free enterprise and independant game development."


And keep the company alive. There have to be some limitations. It's simple corperate logic.

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