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TheAbomb12
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Posted: 29th May 2004 00:07
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Quote: "An email was sent to you that we have identified as containing a virus. Below find the details of the infected message:

From: rich@thegamecreators.com
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:35:43 -0400
Virus Name: W32/Bagle.z@MM
Infected Attachments: 0000027f.EML, /myphoto7.jpeg, /MoreInfo.scr"


ok, I know rich wouldn't be silly enough to send me a virus; so how did this happen?

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Peter H
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Posted: 29th May 2004 00:08
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some(actually just about all ) viruses automaticly send e-mails without the e-mail adress owners consent


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M00NSHiNE
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Posted: 29th May 2004 00:08
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No, I dont think rich would send you a virus and make it so blatantly obvious. Its probably been hijacked or rich has a forwarding virus.

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Eric T
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Posted: 29th May 2004 00:10
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http://virusbusters.itcs.umich.edu//bagle-z.html

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David T
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Posted: 29th May 2004 00:11
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Moreinfo.scr

Yeah... going to open that then!

Looks like he has a virus on his PC - that or it's actually somebody deliberately sending those emails to anybody who has their address publically viewable.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 01:05 Edited at: 29th May 2004 01:06
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Hmmm... Similar thing is happening to me, my inbox gets clogged with undeliverable email jammed full of logs of the attachments....

Why do worms start with W32?

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sidewkdik
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Posted: 29th May 2004 01:09
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I dunno about an email attachment virus, but I keep getting that sad old waste of time making Trojan virus

Did you know someone in Germany was arrest for a virus "Brown Bread"

Maybe I should code a virus that deletes every site, every web page, hahaha..soz

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Most viruses spoof the from address and get if from either the address book or any document of the affected persons computer. Probably someone on the forum though.


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Posted: 29th May 2004 02:45
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I get them all the time at work - supposed from our ISP etc etc. Had the boss's son querying one today as well...


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Richard Davey
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Posted: 29th May 2004 02:50
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Quote: "Looks like he has a virus on his PC"


Nothing to do with me, my PC is squeaky clean. Most viruses these days appear to be from someone in your address book/inbox, even though they're not. If you want proof, just look at the RFC mail header of the message. I guarantee it didn't come from my our ISP.

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genius
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Posted: 29th May 2004 02:53
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I wonder why people send viruses.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 02:54
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lol, or Rich thinks your "the one that shall not be named"


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Richard Davey
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Posted: 29th May 2004 03:00
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genius - these days most people don't even know they're sending them and some don't even know they're receiving them!

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I'll bet it came from his own computer. I had the same thing happen to me a while back. I got a virus off the network and my computer was sending me e-mails from everyone on my address list

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 29th May 2004 03:08
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lol... well i know it ain't from here, cause i know the virus' my computer has atm

that said i still haven't setup outlook as that seems to be the only way these buggers can spread.
webmail is the way to go

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Posted: 29th May 2004 03:35
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Quote: "webmail is the way to go"


I sincerely hope you're joking Webmail is dangerous. Everybody should set their email clients to text only. And it's not just Outlook that does this. I get undelivered email in my inbox every day and I use Mozilla's Thunderbird.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 04:01
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There should a viruses 101 course before people start using the internet-- the problem with some people isn't a matter of stupidity, but ignorance-- I mean, 90% of viruses these days cloak themselves, but so few people seem to know about it .

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Posted: 29th May 2004 04:11
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Quote: "Webmail is dangerous."


How can it be anymore dangerious than normal web browsing as it goes through the browser?

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Posted: 29th May 2004 04:39
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Quote: "How can it be anymore dangerious than normal web browsing as it goes through the browser?"


Browsers tend to be more secure, I believe.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 07:33
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"Most viruses spoof the from address" touche' i reckon that as well


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TheAbomb12
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Posted: 29th May 2004 08:48
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Quote: "Most viruses these days appear to be from someone in your address book/inbox, even though they're not. "


I don't recall EVER adding you to my address book, nor sending or recieving emails from you.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 09:24
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I have set my email client to text only now for about a year cause lots of those fun wee emails have scripts tah call out to bigger web pages full of nastier stuff.

i have not had a virus after i switched to text only in my email.

i do run active pop scanner and a web scanner.

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Posted: 29th May 2004 13:30
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@Senor Mouse

Its probably someone who has both yours and Rich's email address that has the virus then


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Posted: 29th May 2004 14:04
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Web mail is often safer because it is often plain text (not even RichText), not to mention it technically is never on your system; you display the information as part of a webpage... only the server has the real email, so it's thier problem if it has a virus

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Posted: 29th May 2004 14:04
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Quote: "I don't recall EVER adding you to my address book, nor sending or recieving emails from you."


Doesn't have to be YOUR address book. Can be anyones.

Like I said, look at the mail headers (not that to/from crap, but the actual real RFC headers) and you'll see EXACTLY where it came from - and it wasn't me.

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You could use webmail, or you could just use a decent email client in the first place (read: NOT Outlook or anything Microsoft). I use The Bat and have done for years now and will never switch to anything else. It's the most stable and feature packed mail client for Windows and isn't stupid enough to let any script viruses in. It doesn't look so pretty, so if you're expecting something "cute and fluffy", don't even waste your time on it - but for the pros, it's superb.

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I just use T-Email now; the only bad point about it is the damn interface is pink... but it's quite and for a webmail Linux compatible is very well featured.

That probably has more to why i use webmail, because there isn't a universal runtime mail component; everything is different.
And to be perfectly honest, tacky looking and feeling programs make my skin crawl. Which is why I tend to use the Microsoft stuff more; cause they don't feel like they've been cobbled together with gum and ducktape.

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Quote: " just use T-Email now; the only bad point about it is the damn interface is pink..."


Sounds "cute and fluffy"


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Posted: 29th May 2004 21:24
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If you keep your virus checker updated and run a firewall then youll cut down the risks no end.
Personally Outlook has never been a problem with me, Ive had 3 notifications (in 2 years) from my ISP about virii that they have blocked ,which would have been detected at my end anyway, so to me it is double the protection.
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Posted: 30th May 2004 04:30 Edited at: 30th May 2004 04:31
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I think I know who the culprit is.

Z interactive has recentlly taken to sending me Emails.

Both Rich and I are on his contact list, so he must have stupidly let a virus infect his computer.

Needless to say, I have kindly told him to stop emailing me.

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a really good email client is pegasus. its free and its jam packed with features.


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I have no viruses on my computer check everyday with Norton Anti Virus and AVG.

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You Virus scan your PC everyday? With TWO AV programs? Wow... I find that really, really hard to beleive.

Jess.


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hrm...
viruses...
mmmm...
i have had the worst luck with viri in my lifetime with computers. heh.

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Well, maybe not every day but just about every other day! I know... Waste of time!

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Z you probrably don't even know how to use your AV programs...

besides it was RIGHT after you sent me that stupid Bill Gates email that I recieve that email from "rich". You have both rich's email and mine. Lets see, put 2 and 2 together...

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I know how to use Virus programs!

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I know how to use Virus programs!
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can you use art packages..... I could make a better banner

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About 10 times a day, I get an unknown user email bounced back to my personal address from "suchabody@danwood.co.uk". I have no idea who this domain is, whoever does know who it is ... CLEAN YOUR BLOODY PC!

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Ghost mailier...

its not that hard to fake an e-mail address

someone has ghost mailed

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Well put it this way:

PEOPLE THAT SEND VIRUS'S, SPAM OR WORMS ARE PATHETIC, MORONIC LOW-LIFES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB OR A GIRLFRIEND.

I don't see the point in all that stuff. You know, the world would save billions if no stuff like that could be made. Think of it, all the money going to charities...

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Quote: "PEOPLE THAT SEND VIRUS'S, SPAM OR WORMS ARE PATHETIC, MORONIC LOW-LIFES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB OR A GIRLFRIEND."


Amen. They have inner hatred for themselves which they can only temper by acting vindictively to others, while hidden behind their computer screens.

They also have tiny penises.

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Quote: "Hmmm... Similar thing is happening to me, my inbox gets clogged with undeliverable email jammed full of logs of the attachments...."


yeah! and all those are of 43-63 Kb not?? I have all of them too, I always delete them...some says "important informations!" or undelivered mails and all that...I don't know why they even bother...

Quote: "Quote: "PEOPLE THAT SEND VIRUS'S, SPAM OR WORMS ARE PATHETIC, MORONIC LOW-LIFES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB OR A GIRLFRIEND."

Amen. They have inner hatred for themselves which they can only temper by acting vindictively to others, while hidden behind their computer screens.

They also have tiny penises."


LMAO!!!!!!!!! nice one lmao!!!!

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Quote: "PEOPLE THAT SEND VIRUS'S, SPAM OR WORMS ARE PATHETIC, MORONIC LOW-LIFES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB OR A GIRLFRIEND."

Actually, that is usually totally incorrect - most have jobs and are married.


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Quote: "You Virus scan your PC everyday? With TWO AV programs? Wow... I find that really, really hard to beleive.

Jess."


Mine gets scanned every day cos I've set it to scan every day at 1:00.

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I do a full scan on all computers at 8pm on Friday - the realtime scan is always running, of course, all the time.


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