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Mind Storm 101
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2004 09:57
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I just started this today.


Im attempting to start off a model for a character for a game in development. If anyone thats good with humanoid modeling can give me a hand on this, it would be great. I esspecialy need a skinner and animator in the future.

Heres the my consept art (brace yourselves):

I know, this is gonna be a pain in the @$$.

Ive already posted a team request here:
http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=32615&b=9

If anyone can assist it would be great.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2004 13:55 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2004 13:55
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ouch that is a hard one and not for me to make..

and the head you did make is a really good one when there is textur on.

how many polys will you accpet for this char?
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i thought she looked familiar..........Yuna.....hmm, all uve done really is change the Y to an L lol

well.........squaresoft are gonna bone ur ass lol

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2004 18:38 Edited at: 26th Jun 2004 23:33
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lol, everyone is saying that, Ive nvr played an FF game and her name is from a person I know, o well, names can be changed. Anyway, Low poly is fine as long as you can tell whoes who.

LUNA f
Usage: Roman Mythology
Means "the moon" in Latin. Luna was the Roman goddess of the moon, frequently depicted driving a white chariot through the sky.

Looks like the Romans might just bone Squaresoft

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2004 19:25 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2004 20:03
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well if you post a pic from the front and the side with the arms out to the sides then it is better for someone to model it..
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Posted: 4th Jun 2004 07:10
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I try and draw that, if anyone can donate parts that would be swell to, an arm, legs, hopefuly a female torso... in milkshape perferably, I dont want any bloody packages arriving at my door step. Any female model parts would be helpful.

Thx

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Posted: 4th Jun 2004 08:53 Edited at: 4th Jun 2004 15:14
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Mind Storm 101 i did start on my first char ever last night and will try tests with your Luna but i have no idea how this will end but is it good you can have it.

when it is my first char i can see the poly count is getting out of hand and it will be high prolly to high for a game..
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Posted: 5th Jun 2004 04:05 Edited at: 5th Jun 2004 04:25
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ok i cant do it this is not for me..
this is a pic from the .x viewer i have.



but i got stuck when it did come to the cloth that hang from the front

and it is 1459 tri's
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Posted: 5th Jun 2004 11:28 Edited at: 26th Jun 2004 23:35
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Yay! Renforcements has arrived. Thank you Matic for the effort, I'll be able to finnish her off now that I have something to work off ove. Thx again! [12:27, Vision Blurring... *thump]

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Posted: 7th Jun 2004 02:03 Edited at: 7th Jun 2004 11:20
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well i dident give up yet i did get new strength to move on with this char

im working on diffrent ways to make that cloth i will get back if it works for me.

i did add boots so it is at 1490 tri's now
how many can be used? my guess is the char will land on 2500 tri's with the head when it is finish.


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I think I can make you a low poly model of her, let me try , BTW I'll make her without head, because you have it

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Wow nice, Ive also been working on her as well, ... instead of homework as I should be doing...

I used an free template I found online and then added her head an put cloaths on. Heres what I got



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Posted: 7th Jun 2004 02:52 Edited at: 7th Jun 2004 02:54
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nah I can't human models are hard for me

/edit: wow, that was what I got on mind to do for you , nice model btw!

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@Mind Storm 101
wow thats good, she could use a little smoothing here and there... just add a texture to it.....

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Anyone a good skinner?

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Ok, I attempted to open the door and try skining to find instant death...



What is that? Half her skirt is textured in milkshape and the rest (parts that I added on after merging a file) are just colored. In Lith only the original file parts appear and my addons are gone, so shes naked.... Is there something I have to set thoes faces to in order for it to render?

Help?

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ok Mind Storm 101 hehe i cant compete with that.

great you did make a model
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Your going in the credits anyway, I used your model as a base, I forgot to say "Thx!"

Anyone know the solution to my texturing mahem?

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Either the new parts you have merged in dont have the texture assigned yet, or if they do they dont have any UV's yet and are likely to be all bunched up in a corner, thus only getting a few pixels of texture space

Hope that helps a bit

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Seems logical, can u assign UV's in milkshape?

Im basicly asking for a walk throught, lol
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Posted: 7th Jun 2004 19:00 Edited at: 7th Jun 2004 19:03
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http://www.psionic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/msmap.html

on old tut I wrote that might help explain things a lil' using milkshape

although if I was you I'd checkout lithunwrap or Unwrap 3D, the latest version is very good!!

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Omg, this so annoying, if I send someone the .ms3d file could they put a UV to her? You dont have to texture or anything I just can't seem to get thoes addon triangles to show up on the unwrapper.

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Quote: "Omg, this so annoying, if I send someone the .ms3d file could they put a UV to her? You dont have to texture or anything I just can't seem to get thoes addon triangles to show up on the unwrapper."


I left you a message earlier on another thread and now i have no clue where it went to.

I can skin this modeler for you..... i need four things from you.

The pencil/charcoal drawings you already have posted.

A behind view drawing of her so i can generate you a texture mat specificly for this character.

The model in .x or .3ds format

And a drawing of her face without the hair for preserving the mesh detail.

I will colorize the drawings and get the proper skin tones for her if you want.

Or you could draw her in color as well as in black and white and i could bump map the textures and make features like her hair look more realistic.

It's your choice.....it's your model.

I will create two master texture mats for you as well as map the texture on the model for you.

If you want me to do this...e-mail me
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If you would like to see some of my work you can check these models out:
http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=32858&b=7

I have some tricks up my sleeve that eliminate the need to use a wrapper if you know how to break the mesh down properly.

By the way......those sketches are verry good.......why the hell you arent working for a game development company is beyond me!

I can see your anime influences in her.

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found it.....lol

you posted a link to it in the first post.

http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=32615&b=9

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SUM SUM SUMMER TIME!!!!!

I did the rear view and face image and I'll send/post them soon.

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got it......dont worry about the nudes i got it figured out already

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Listen i dont have no problem to create this model , its not that hard . BUT it will be better if you will draw the front and side
if you will ill promise that ill give it a try ...
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I'll have to see how sgtmay holding up. In the mean time I have plenty I need help with in terms of models, like another character:

Our thief and comic relief character Rijin.


I'll be making side and front prints today if you would like to work on him.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2004 05:15 Edited at: 14th Jun 2004 05:16
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Up for grabs.


I made this realy quick so somethings will be a bit off and u'll have to use your eye to align them properly.

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Luna is coming along nicely......i am currently working on a better head mesh to use.



I will be re-shaping the head to match luna's features a little better than the baloon shaped head she started with

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Remind me to buy you a drink...

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it is a amasing textur for the face you did use there..

great work.
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here's what it looks like now that i have reshaped the face and re-applied the skin and facial features for your character.......i might have to shrink the mouth a little more yet.

I didnt like the way the hair looked so i decided to play with the length a little....we'll see how it looks a few more versions later.



The texture mat is about 20% complete i still have lots to do to this yet.

I also need to move the cheek bones slightly higher to compliment the large eyes more.

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new skin texture finished and breast reduction complete.......the character from your drawings looks more like a b cup than a c cup woman.



now time to finish the dress and set all the colors.

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Posted: 15th Jun 2004 02:59 Edited at: 15th Jun 2004 02:59
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Dont forget that glint that all Anime characters have


Try and make her hair a little more poofy


And I agree on resizing her mouth and touch up on her upper lipstick


Great work!

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more body feature fixes and starting to work on the clothes.



I am still not happy with the face yet......the jaw line isnt right or i need to move the neck line up more.


Looks like she's about ready for a dress

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the hair needs more work too......still dont like what i am seeing but it's getting closer to what it should be.


shorten the hair length more mindstorm?

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sgtmay the first pic you did post of her she had another face textur why dont you use that?
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it doesnt match the rest of the body.....these are fantasy characters and they need to come close to the drawings.....which that face did not.

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Yeah, her hair should be right above her shoulder.

Right now Im converting the project to DBPro, so far so good, just some minor variable and text problems.

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Great model! But the necks a little big IMHO.

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Yeah I was thinking that too. Whats IMHO

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IMHO=In My Honest Opinion

I have been off the modeling project for a couple days.......i'll be back to work saturday evening and should have this model ready for you by monday.

I'll narrow the neck a little more.

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sorry for taking so long.....

I messed my lower back up bad last week and i have been spending most of the last four days on my back.

It was a little too hard to concentrate on anything while sitting or standing till i got my back straightened out......it's still a little sore.....but tolerable now.





that's where i am at right now.....i'm almost ready to finish creating the texture mat for this character and wrapping this one up.

Let me know if i should fix anything else with the mesh before i get the final texture mat applied to this model.

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does the neck look better now?



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Yeah, it makes alot of difference, great model looks magnificent.

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Agreed, Ive posted some new screen shots of the project if anyones interested.

www.dotbinary.dbspot.com

Go through Projects -> Screenshots

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Hehehe, it kinda looks funny seeing a cube use magic.

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Yeah, thats why we have sgtmay here

This is gonna be hell, I need around....
10 models, (6 Main, 2 Villian, Council Men, Soldier, Peasant Man, Peasant Woman, Shopkeeper, and blacksmith) And thats just the top of my head in addition to monsters and levels maps... I better start hiring people... *looks at empty wallet

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here's some more pics of the progress on this model.









The hair needs a little uvw mapping work yet and the texture mat still needs a little editing......almost there though.

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