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Geek Culture / Visual BASIC or Visual BASIC.NET- What's the difference?

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Zenincanin 14
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Well, VB or VB.NET?

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Posted: 8th Jun 2004 00:12 Edited at: 8th Jun 2004 00:13
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Theres a good tool find out stuff like this. It's called Google.

In summary

VB.Net is a newer version of VB, that compiles to the .net format instead of the VB exes that VB6 created.

VB6 was a standalone product, In VS.NET they've decided to integrate all of the languages into one IDE.

VB.NET is very close to fully OO, whereas VB6 is almost, but not quite OO.

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VB6 and VB.NET are very, very different.

CattleRustler will pop along in a moment to explain the juicy details.

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heh, not to him I won't
there are plenty of comparison sites or at least sites explaining the differences but you kind of need to know 6 to appreciate net


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Pincho Paxton
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Well, anyhow I don't know the difference, and what's OO???

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object-obligated

or oriented... all preference really.

Me, I prefer, Organs-Organated

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OO = Object Orientated

VB.Net is fully object orientated bringing it to the level of C++

e.g. VB6

cStr(myVal) // This converts myVal to string

VB.Net

myVal.toString() // myVal is an object in which inherits toString()

blah blah blah

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*snickers at orientated*

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That's a bastard word, oriented. Orientated is so right, yet so wrong.

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hmm vb.net....... wait i have that(looks at book shelf, shakes off dust) wow its never been open..... owell (throws on ground)


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It IS a piece of crap software, kudos to Troan.

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Quote: "hmm vb.net....... wait i have that(looks at book shelf, shakes off dust) wow its never been open..... owell (throws on ground)"


Who the hell would buy a $150 program to never even open it?


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i wouldnt! i bought it for $100! I forget why................


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Talk about throwing away $100...


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VB's a good language anyhow. It works well along side DB. You can see benefits in both for different tasks.

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<laughs at the sadly misinformed dolts>



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picks up VB.Net.......maybe i could .....melt it down and recycle it 1 less VB in the world!!


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Give it to me, Troan! I've wanted VB.net for a while.

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I never really liked the VB series, I guess i dont like how its visual(too confusing) and buying a programming lang. I like DBP because of how it makes it easy to program games. I will just stick with Java i guess just because i like it more and starting to know it pretty well and then moveing to C++ would not be that hard.

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VB is not confusing. It's much easier than DB. You should buy a good book about VB. VB.net might be more confusing, I don't know.

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Quote: "It's much easier than DB"

Have to disagree there. Loudly.


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I've sat down in front of VB a few times, and every time I get up again with a headache wishing I had someone to explain it to me because I can't get anywhere with it alone. And I'm not the dumbest stick in the woods either.

DB is definitely easier and clearer for me at least, approaching it without previous experience.
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Without a good tutorial then you'll be confused by the interface and how to do things but once you know what everything does, the actual language itself is very simplistic.


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yes vb syntax is way easier than c based syntax but the trade off was that vb6 couldn't touch c++ in terms of power and being an object oriented programming language...VB.NET has changed all of that. Now you have the best of both worlds: All the power of any c-based oop language but with all the ease of classic vb syntax (to a degree)


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I've had no luck finding good tutorials. At least I have spent a good deal of time trying out ones online that were step by step and easily explainable, and no luck yet.
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I have just started using VB again on a project, and I can see how it looks confusing now that I have used DB for so long. Anyhow to learn VB get a book called Learn VB in 21 Days. It costs about £50 though. I learned VB in 3 Days with that book.

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CattleRustler- What version of VB.NET should I get? Enterprise, Home?

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So of course you are too much of a P*ssy to post here, but you went ahead and emailed me again first.

Thank you, this will be fun


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You can get VB.Net standard just for rating some movies... OR get the SDK and IDE. OR you can not even bother because you wouldn't be able to handle ANY version.

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Quote: "Talk about throwing away $100..."

I spent $120 USD when in New York on Books. Never read em. "Physics For Gamedevelopers" and "AI for game developers" or somethign like that. My g/f also bought a coupla marketing books and I'm pretty sure they've never been read. Ungrateful cow I guess we got caught up with the whole "buying stuff in New York" thing.

It is possible to blow money on stuff you never actually use. *sigh*....

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I bought £350 worth of books on C and the Amiga Operating System when I had an Amiga. All on the same day!!!

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Quote: "I spent $120 USD when in New York on Books. Never read em. "Physics For Gamedevelopers" and "AI for game developers" or somethign like that. "


Send them to me.


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Quote: "You can get VB.Net standard just for rating some movies... OR get the SDK and IDE. OR you can not even bother because you wouldn't be able to handle ANY version."


Really, I can get VB.NET by rating movies? Where?

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