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Geek Culture / GeForce 6800 rocks :)

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 15:31
Received my GeForce 6800 card yesterday (cheers Nvidia!) and promptly swapped out my GeForce FX for it. First thing I noticed was that the design is far better, it doesn't take up 2 slots in the case anymore, but the fan is far more effective and it's got a cool heatsink. It's quite noisy though, but I nearly always work with music on anyway so I don't care about that

I wanted to try out some of the new Nvidia tech demos on it, but all you can download from their web site are videos - pah! So I gave Fry Cry a bash and it blew it away - ansiotropic filtering, full-screen anti-aliasing, a monster resolution and detail set to high for everything and the game still rocked along (avg. 55 to 70 fps depending on indoor/outdoor). Quite impressive stuff.

Then I checked out the new demo of Joint Ops (the only on-line game I play), it was released only last night and is built from the final release code - wow, superb stuff! I played solidly for 4 hours with detail set to high for everything, all shadows on, a nice high crisp resolution, anti-aliasing at x4 and all particle effects on. Remember this is an on-line game, most of the time those kind of features lag you into hell and back - but I came in the top 4 on every game I played and there was no slow-down once the map had loaded. Sniping from 700m away across the volcano map, hidden in grass and foliage, as attack choppers strafe the land and things explode all around is just an awesome experience.

Anyway I've yet to try the card with any DBPro stuff (I'm on holiday this week ) but I'll be doing that later on to see how it scores.

I know that if I had a better motherboard it'd be even faster - I only have an AGP x4 slot, but a x8 would double the bandwidth available to the card - and a PCI express slot would double that again. But for now, I can live with it

Cheers,

Rich 'HALOfourteen kills you with a headshot' Davey

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Dave J
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 15:52
Stop bragging.


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indi
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:00
sweet!, Im goign to buy a new pc when express is more common.


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Dave J
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:04
Can I have your old GeForce Rich? Sending to Australia doesn't cost that much, honest.


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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:07
The effects tech demo works perfectly with nVIDIA cards, even my little FX5200 makes them run and look great - anyone buying a card specifically for their DBPro stuff should certainly go for nVIDIA.


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Richard Davey
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:13
Quote: "Stop bragging."


Muhahahahaha

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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:20
Well I uhh... got a new mouse the other day, it has a couple buttons and stuff. I think it's pretty good, looks nifty too:



People are saying trackball is out but I honestly think they're wrong.


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Emperor Baal
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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 16:24
Quote: "I know that if I had a better motherboard it'd be even faster - I only have an AGP x4 slot, but a x8 would double the bandwidth available to the card - and a PCI express slot would double that again. But for now, I can live with it "


Dont get a new motherboard, just for AGP 8x. The performance increase is only around 5-8%. Save da money for PCI express, should give you a bigger boost (10-15%)

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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 18:05
I got a new....ermmmmmm...Power Pack!!!

Oh yeah and a 17" Monitor!

Oh yeah, and a GF FX5200!!!

ermmmmm That's about it!

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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 20:07
I got an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Megs last month...


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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 20:21
cool, hopefully I'll be getting one soon to



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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 20:43
I wouldn't worry AGP vs PCI-X really isn't as mega difference as people think it is.

Have to remember how the ports actually work; all they're giving you is throughput...
AGP 8x only starts showing speed increases when you get above 2.0GHz processing speeds, which means that a good majority of AthlonXP processor don't see any benifit in speed, however Pentium4 processor do.

PCI-X is different to this in the way that the CPU has to be running on a much higher bus speed for your to get performance increases.
The structure of Direct3D and OpenGL, means that actually alot of you programs are cached in the Video Ram; which means that Throughput of the bus is quite trival.

I know that some people have mentioned that PCI-X is amazingly fast because it's 2x faster than AGP8x; but to actually see ANY difference you have to be running a state of the art system.
Even then a 15% increase in speed is actually very very small;

with 3D Mark 03 what your talking is the difference between 13,000points and 13,100 points which equals to about 3-4fps.
If your running Unreal3 then i'm guessing that small increase is worth it... if your not then who the heck gives a flying monkies?

still it's an awesome card. can't wait to test FarCry SM3.0 when Dx9.0c is finally released publically; been told it gives the 6800 a nice boost of around 75%
(1600x1200x32 FSAA4x AF8x i can push at 58fps which is enough but i wouldn't mind it running at 80fps )

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Posted: 10th Jun 2004 22:00 Edited at: 10th Jun 2004 22:00
All this talk of 'antri-scopic' stuff is making my GForce MX 440 feel sad. I have a 2.4Gh P4 processor, and I played the Joint Ops demo the other day with all graphics setting to low...

2 FPS !!!!!!!!!

Damn I need to get that 6800...

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 03:18
A friend of mine talked with a former card developer, who now works for a game company. This was around when 4x agp was new. He said that 4x was pointless, and anything higher will probably be too. Manufactures still haven't even nearly reached the full potential of agp 2x, according to him.

*looks at FX5900xt*
*kicks outdated computer*

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 11:09
yeah Phaelax; pretty much the standpoint is that technology is only just catching up to take advantage of AGP8x, so a 2x faster I/O system for graphics is pointless.

The difference between AGP1x and AGP2x you can visible see in games; but when you change to 4x that's a different matter.
Remember doing it as an experiment when AGP4x came out... the 6800 is capable of processing something like 5GB/sec of data, which is amazing; but as AGP2x can handle something like 6GB/sec really what's that amazing thing about having a system which can handle 34GB/sec or even 62GB/sec?

A good experiment is to actually use your boards AGP setter, and alter your AGP speed. (Via/nForce boards have it)

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 14:39
Damn I really need a new graphics card
Current graphics card: 32MB nvidia riva tnt 2 (PCI)

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 19:02
Yeah, well, the new ATis can do all that... at a higher resolution !

I'm happy with my good old TNT2 ... no, really ...

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 20:27
It's only £40 to upgrade the TNT2 to a Gforce 4 AGP. Or £55 to upgrade to a GF FX 5200 AGP. So you may as well upgrade.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 20:37
I got an Athlon XP2000+ system with 512m RAM and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128M.... FOR FREE!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 21:40 Edited at: 11th Jun 2004 21:40
lol, be happy with your Geforce FX5200

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John H
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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 22:56
Hey Rich its almost my birthday annnnnd

Oh well Ill just go download that game and own you with my build in Ge4 w00t!!

Cya

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Posted: 11th Jun 2004 23:11 Edited at: 11th Jun 2004 23:12
My grandmother bought a 386-SX the other day. Apparently it runs as much as 20 million instructions per second--- booyah! And with her 2,000,000 bytes of RAM (read: 2 *million* bytes) she could store, like, a phone book with 2 million numbers in there.

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