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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 14:49
Anyone know where to get c++ I\'m looking for a copy for a year and I didn\'t find one and whats the latest upgrade on it cause my uncle is willing to give me c++ turbo 3.0.

Neil19533
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 15:15
you can download loads of different compilers free. goto http://www.midpec.com/djgpp/ that is a 32bit compiler. there is more out there try searching on [href]www.google.com[/href] for a free cpp compiler

Any spelling mistakes are totally In tensional.
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 15:21
Yeah, C++ is just a language, but there are plenty of compilers. Such examples are:

DJGPP (As shown above) (free)
Borland (free)
Dev-C++ (free)
Microsoft Visual C++ (not free)
Microsoft Visual C++ .Net (not free, costs about $100 seperate from Visual Studio)

and a whole bunch more. Take your pick, its the same language for each one.

Cheers,
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zane
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 16:04
dev-c++ is a very good one

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You can get a free command-line version of Microsoft C++ 2003 from MS, plus they are currently offering a beta/trial of VC++ Express 2005 here : http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/

Another 3 free compilers that are available are:
Digital Mars : http://www.digitalmars.com/
OpenWatcom : http://www.openwatcom.org/
Cygwin : http://www.cygwin.com/ - really a Unix environment for windows, with the GCC compiler

Oh, and Mingw (GCC compiler), but thats the compiler used by the Dev-C++ IDE

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 22:53
Visual C++ 2005 is just awesome for saying it's free.
There are some obviously cut-backs like Win32 stuff you can only compile CommandLine projects, but for .Net you can compile any project.
Plus an express version of MySql (4.0) and MSDN
You also can't create resources, which means applications have to be hand made. The beta doesn't say these features are not available just for the beta though; simply says 'Feature not Implimented Yet' which suggests there might be a download futher down the line for them as they're developed

Hower one statement to add:

Borland (free)::

Borland Builder C++ 5.5, Command Line - Free
Borland Builder C++ 6.0, Command Line - License Bound, but Free
Borland Builder C++ Enterprise, IDE - $75

There is also Codewarrior
However I'd suggest starting by using C rather tha C++ in GCC (availabled with Mingw) and learn the basics of how C works, then tackle the OO extensions of C++

Shadow Robert
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Posted: 1st Jul 2004 22:55
Quote: "Anyone know where to get c++ I\'m looking for a copy for a year and I didn\'t find one and whats the latest upgrade on it cause my uncle is willing to give me c++ turbo 3.0."


Goto Id Software FTP and grab Wolfenstein3D. It was created in Borland Turbo C++ 3.0 and compiles under it without editing.
It will give you a small window into how to use the language.

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 2nd Jul 2004 03:54
thanks people I got visual basic for free and also visual studio for free but I think I need the visual c++ for the visualstudio but I do have visual studio and some of the links here are great I might not get it yet though because I'm saving up for darkbasic and not pro because I only have windows 95 now anyone know where to get a new motherboard and processor I'm searching on ebay
thanks to those who help me and have fun

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Posted: 2nd Jul 2004 23:58 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2004 23:58
Quote: "thanks people I got visual basic for free and also visual studio for free"


Do I sense piracy?

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 00:05
hmmm. me to


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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 02:18
I got it free after rebate at http://www.freeafterrebate.com/ but they sold out of the visual basic get flight simulator 2002 and 2004 becuase you get both flight simulator 2004 is free on upgrades and get much more stuff too.

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:06
Answers for everyones response in order.
@Neil19533 What compilers would I need from there for c++?
@Preston Chaderton Where could I get those
@zane do you think I should get that one with anything else or only that
@IanM What are those useful for? (of course c++ but what else?)
@Raven which one would you reccomend?
@Raven Would you say thats required?
@Dgamer and Powersoft I got it off of http://www.freeafterrebate.com/ as I've said.

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:09
the hek get rid of the \'s they're stupid I'm gonna test it is ther one in the I'm part here

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:10
they're gone !!!!!!

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:19
Program Expert, why don't you try them for yourself?

Quote: "which one would you reccomend?"


If you went to 50 different restaurants and asked the waiter for their recommendation on food, you'd get 50 different things. You'll only known which one to try once you try it out and try to use the software.

To follow through though, Microsoft's C++ compilers are the standard of today. Microsoft's C++ compiler isn't going to give you much any multi-platform abilities though. In that case, try MinGW, Codewarrior, or Borland's C++ compiler. (I recnetly tried out CodeWarrior, but wasn't too happy with it. It's generally not going to be good for us hobbyists.)

However, Multi-platform may not be important to you. As you see, depending on what you want it'll slowly guide you towards the right software.

If I were you, I'd try out MinGW, or download Borland C++ 5.0(It's free from [href]www.borland.com[/href]).

Might I also recommend you vist your book shop and pick up a book on C++.

Quote: "I\'m looking for a copy for a year "

Aren't you glad you finally found it.



A book? I hate book. Book is stupid.
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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:25
oh yeah thanks I still need answers to other things.

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:29
and where the hek do I get the mingw neways I can't find it could you get me some more information other then borland.com?

flibX0r
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:34
there is a link in Ravens post

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2004 14:37
what can I do with that stuff?

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Posted: 4th Jul 2004 03:27
What is this Express series from Microsoft? Like, lower cost compilers than VS or something?

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 4th Jul 2004 03:42
Quote: "which one would you reccomend?"

A Programming Language is like buying a new games console, there are the popular ones, the powerful ones, and the stable ones.
Although they all do the same job, they have thier own little quirks which make them unique.
It's upto you to decide which variety you prefer...

Personally I use Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 / 8.0 Express, because the IDEs really make things easier for larger projects and the Microsoft syntax appeals to me.
On the other hand my girlfriend only uses GNU GCC (command line) because it works on Linux and she is deathly apposed to any software which requires an EULA.

Neither makes either of us better coders, but it does make our lives easier dealing with languages we enjoy.

Quote: "Would you say thats required?"

I'm not sure what your reffering to, but I think your asking would it be a requirement to learn C before C++, no?

If that's the case then, no you can jump right into C++. The difference is there is alot more to get to grips with, by learning the basics of C first you learn the basis for which really all programming stems from. You will find that Classes and Interfaces within C++ will be easier to understand if your first understand the relationship between Structures and Functions in C.
It's also a case of baby-steps;

Learning to
struct Steps
{
char small;
};

Steps Take;
char One = Take.small;

before you can
struct Steps
{
char small;
} Steps, *pSteps;

Steps *Take;
int *large = *(int*) &Steps;

hehee

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 4th Jul 2004 12:59
Where can you get Visual C++ 6.0/8.0 Express or Visual C++.net? I would like to have either. How much do they cost?

Thanks in advance

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Posted: 4th Jul 2004 20:25
you can download the beta of express which was mentioned earlier in this thread (http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc) and it is good (only just downloaded it) or you could buy visual c++.net which costs alots from the microsoft site

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IanM
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Posted: 4th Jul 2004 23:14
@Program Expert.

Please can you reduce the file size of your sig. 140k is too big. Getting it down to around 60k would be better.

Thanks

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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 5th Jul 2004 15:02
did I have to or can I put it back on

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Posted: 6th Jul 2004 00:20
If you can cut its size down to 60k then you can keep it.

I have broadband, but despite that it still takes an age to open any page you've posted in with that pic. Just think how bad it would be for those still on dial-up.

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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 6th Jul 2004 04:40
all my computers that have dial up are something like fast loading pages ps I think it's becuse the computers are on a network or something

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 04:53
what would you reccomend I get that is free?

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 05:00
I\'ll just test everything that is free out and see what I like but I\'m going to have to be able to take it off of my computer if I don\'t like it

DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 05:00
I\'m tired of the \'s they\'re stupid

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Have you read anything that anyone has posted here?

There are 7 free C++ compilers listed here, plus variations of levels of each compiler.


Next, reduce the size of your banner picture - its now over 170k. If you don't, I will start to delete every post of yours that I come across. If you *still* don't get the message, then I will start banning you for 24 hour periods until you *do* get the message, or until I get bored of it and ban you permanently.

Reduce the size of your banner.

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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 05:20
ok I have taken the banner off while I make it smaller but how small in size should it be?

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Quote: "If you can cut its size down to 60k then you can keep it"


Nuff said

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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 31st Jul 2004 09:25
I'll see how small I can make it the smallest is going to be 40kb

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