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spooky
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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 02:01
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Probably only TCA will be interested, but the final episode of The Prisoner is on BBC4 tonight at 11:30


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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 02:08 Edited at: 7th Aug 2004 03:15
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It's one of the best episodes as well. I have the entire boxed set on video - great stuff

The best part is the whole conspiracy behind "who is number one", I personally believe it's given away at the start of every episode, when he says "who is number one?" and there is a pause followed by "you are number two".

But if you listen carefully it can be heard like this (note the comma

"you are, number six".

Anyway, great stuff

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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 02:12
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u just revealed the ending

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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 02:14
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You've obviously never seen it then

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nope, what is it then?

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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 02:26 Edited at: 7th Aug 2004 02:26
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I love prisoner, it's so cruel on number 6 (e.g one time he gets away but no one believes him when he says there's a village so he goes up in an aeroplane to point it out to them and they edject him so he's stuck there, AGAIN!!!) and it's still ahead of it's time today, 40 years later. Can anyone name a modern program/film that compares to it in terms of twistedness?


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that was back when they used to write plots rather than crib ideas off the headlines in the Sun and Sunday Sport, now days they wouldn’t know a good or original idea if it bit them on the bum, just more people with bits of paper from University/College/Polytechnic and a wish to make money rather than people with an obsession to entertain, most of the best years of TV (and Radio), where created by people who just "did" it, there where no multimedia courses to be graded on, if you could do the job well and your peers liked what you did then you got the job, just being qualified doesn`t mean your any good at your job, the results are your most important credentials.

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There was an episode of The Invisible Man based on that show I believe. Identical premise.


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Posted: 7th Aug 2004 03:06
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Quote: "I love prisoner, it's so cruel on number 6 (e.g one time he gets away but no one believes him when he says there's a village so he goes up in an aeroplane to point it out to them and they edject him so he's stuck there, AGAIN!!!) "

The first half of the series, Number 2 was pretty much beated black and blue by The Village. Half way through he does start to fight back - culumating in the ultimate showdown in the last episode.

If you haven't been to Portmerion, I suggest you have a visit. When I went, I had just missed the Prisoner Convention, which was a shame. I also got lost in the woods surrounding The Village (there are various gravestones dotted around).

I bet , after seeing the last episode most of you will be going : What the hell?

Quote: "But if you listen carefully it can be heard like this (note the comma"

Never noticed that - I'll have to check that...

I do wish they will hurry up and make a film - Patrick McGoohan isn't getting any younger...


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Quote: "I bet , after seeing the last episode most of you will be going : What the hell?"


Yeah, it's great. Especially his house!

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I've got to get the box set if its out on DVD. Anybody have the DVDs? How's the quality level?

There's a series I don't mind rewatching a lot.
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Never heard of it before but from the posts in this thread I'm guessing it's what inspired the episode of the Simpsons where Homer is drugged and put on an island for having a website that accidentally uncovered some conspiracy. Am I correct? Because it sure does sound like it.


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I have some of the scripts of it

WWSD?
Oh here's to my sweet Satan. The one whose little path would make me sad who's power is Satan. He'll give you give you 666. There was a little toolshed where he made us suffer sad Satan.
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Quote: "Am I correct?"

Not really - there is a parody of it in the episode where everyone is brainwashed into joining a cult, and Marge escapes.

The funny(!) part is where Rover is activated and kills Hans Moleman instead of Marge...


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Ahhh, I see lol.


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Watched it last night and as TCA says "What the hell?". Last time I saw this episode must have been 20 years ago and I'm still none the wiser.

Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones...


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Its The Beatles 'Love, Love' that gets me...


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so what's the actual plot?

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That would be telling...


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arg! thats so annoying

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Questions are a burden to others, answers a prison for oneself...
A still tongue makes a happy life


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ur tongue isnt still!

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We're all pawns, m'dear


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MEH!! and wtf with m'dear? did u take something white and pill shaped

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It means what it is.

So many good quotes... So little time...

And a final work from Patrick McGoohan :

I suppose that THE PRISONER is the sort of thing where a thousand
people might have a different interpretation of it, which I think is
very gratifying. I am glad that's the way it was because that was
the intention.


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lol well i give up im too tired, off to play on Xbox live...

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Fair enough.


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thats if i can be bothered to get up off my seat to turn it on

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If you can, you must visit Portmerion some time...


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how far?

+ in a few days im going to the lake district (dunt ask me where) ofr a week then to North Wales for a week (somewhere between Snowdon and the other mountain )

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Quote: "then to North Wales for a week"
Good enough. I grew up there. Apart from sheep and inbred fun, Portmerion is a good place to go. Always liked that ship build into the ground. Nice. And how small his house actually is.

Plus I bought the final book from one of game book series (the red books from Steve Jackson?) from there, where no where else had it. Tops. Weird how things have changed since Amazon came along.... well, for a north walean country lad that is....

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i dunt like wales, we go there every year

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I'm sure you can put up with a day visit to see Portmerion. You'll then be able to see the stone boat.


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where is it tho?

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Portmerion


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where is it next to

edit: meh. i'l jus find it on a map

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My interpretation is that the scriptwriters were trying experimental drugs


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what TCA was taking when talking to me

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Quote: "edit: meh. i'l jus find it on a map"

Always a good idea...

Quote: "My interpretation is that the scriptwriters were trying experimental drugs "

The script writer was McGoohan, and I doubt he used experimental drugs. However, he was under a lot of pressure to somehow finish the series.


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so he did use the drugs....

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I doubt it.


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so the pressure created a crazily wierd plot?

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The problem was he had to quickly write an ending :

"Having locked himself away for the weekend, 36 hours later McGoohan presented his crew with the script for Fall Out, a tale so wildy ambitious, surreal and pretentious, that neither his allies or the viewing public were prepared for the extraordinary conclusion. Put together at the 11th hour (the filming and editing were completed with barely days to spare)."


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cool

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I love The Prisoner, but i'm stuck on the meening of a few things. I think I have the Penny Farthing as that's the little reward for all his hard work on Danger Man, right? Maybe I missed the point on that though as the whole thing seems to be a parody of inner his stage-life.

However what really gets me is the bubble things and the black cat - help please !?


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Rover can mean suppression and the guardship of corrupt authority, which, when destroyed, disintigrates.

The cat could mean survilence, hidden thoughts


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btw im going nowhere near the place

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Shame...


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i know, that would have been quite interesting

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