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Giles Papworth
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I have vb 6 learning edition and vb.net standard which can hinder development somewhat. I need to be able to create vb 6 dll's, i know i cannot do this with vb 6 learning edition. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make a dll using some sort of free editor?

(P.S i know i have made a c++ ide but i havn't added the make dll functionality and i am a long way off that anyway!)

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 12:25
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Get an easy language that can do .dll's like Euphoria (with C translator) or PureBasic.
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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 16:17
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is it possible to remove the .net dependecys?


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Giles Papworth
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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 18:11
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Ah yea but pure basic isn't free

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 20:05
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dev-C++? Makes DLL's, and is free.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2004 23:46 Edited at: 13th Aug 2004 03:54
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From the Purebasic faq...

Quote: "Is it allowed to use DLLs made with PureBasic in other projects ?

Generally yes. You can make DLLs including PureBasic commands for your own projects without any restrictions. But it's not allowed to release simple "wrapper" Dlls to include PureBasic commands in other programming languages."


So its illegal to release pb dll's for db.

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Giles Papworth
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Posted: 13th Aug 2004 00:39
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so if you want to make dll's with purebasic you don't have to pay?

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No, to get PureBasic in the first place, you have to pay. Just to make dlls afterwards you dont have to pay licensing. You can make .dlls in VB, but they dont work in DB, unless you use a wrapper, (I think Exeat made one).

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such a pain to find anything free and easy these days

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Dev-C++ makes dll's that work fine in DBP. Have a look at it (link in my last post.


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I have got the dev-c++ thing but i havn't got to the stage of making dll's yet, i am still learning c++

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Yeah, C++ doesn't really fulfill the easy requirement stated above.
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Quote: "So its illegal to release pb dll's for db."


No it's not illegal. It's perfectly acceptable to create dlls with purebasic and release them for darkbasic. What isn't allowable is just wrapping purebasic functions in a dll.

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is it possible to remove the .net dependecies?


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Quote: "is it possible to remove the .net dependecies?"

For VB? Only if you get a copy of VB 6 or earlier but MS is no longer selling and supporting it (or going to discontinue doing so soon). I think it's mostly because MS is trying to make everyone use the newest versions of Windows with .NET so they can sell more stuff and retain control of the market and technology.
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i thought so... c++ howeve is possible...

off-topic slighlty>> i wish i can intergrate dbpro into Visual studio and use the same ide. i think it would be so brilliant to use the same ide for all my programming. anyone else agree?


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Yeah, but I'm not a terrible fan of Visual Studio. It's nice but it's too "project oriented" for me (but still a LOT better than the new Watcom), but then again I've only used it for C++ when I was back in high school and Fortran. Athough, if someone made a text highlighter for ConTEXT (or even XEmacs) that'd be the best thing ever.
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is it possible to incoporate DarkBASIC into Visual Studio? and create a built in modeller app etc...


i suppose in short im asking is it posible to customise the ide/ new windows/ features and add the dbpro compiler?


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I don't think so but I haven't used in a while so maybe. But I think MS wants to keep it for their stuff only.
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gothotaku - i would make one for context if i had one big unified list of all the commands / functions in DBP. unfortunately the help file index is not entirely up to date, and AFAIK there is no other list.

maybe i'm just lazy.

perhaps if i were given a list i could make a highlighter..

but honestly making a highlighter for context is not hard at all. open up ant of the highlighter (*.chl) files in the context highlighters directory, and they are commented very heavily. it's a pain to set the colors in the file itself, so you might want to do that from within context.

OK enough of that damn DBP fanboy banner. i'm NOT a DBP fanboy in any way. i haven't used DBP in over a year, and i don't really plan on using it again.
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is it possible though?

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Yeah, was thinking of making one but I'm so busy with work and stuff I have very little time to do much.
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now that i think about it, it may not be possible to make a DBP highlighter file for context. DBP is the only language i know of that has multi-word commands (spaces in the commands??!). the command list in highlighter files is delimited by line breaks and/or spaces. so something like POSITION OBJECT would be interpreted as two commands - POSITION and OBJECT. bleagh.

damn multi-word commands!

OK enough of that damn DBP fanboy banner. i'm NOT a DBP fanboy in any way. i haven't used DBP in over a year, and i don't really plan on using it again.
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Yeah, I just found that out after messing with it a bit. Well that sucks, hopefully he'll fix it in the next release. Another thing it also can't handle is more than one type of comment which is done by many other languages that just DBPro.
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Well i am making an IDE that looks similar to the MS visual stuff (more like the ms visual basic ide). I can't make it look and work exactly like the IDE or micropants will have my ass!

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but you can do it using vs add ins!


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I'm still figuring out how to write DLLs

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Yea but i like a chalange (anway where can you get these plugins?)

Plus my IDE will have some features the VS ide doesn't have

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