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Sir Spaghetti Code
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Posted: 16th Aug 2004 16:51
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I was wondering if anyone around here has authored any simple AI programs that people can use with DB (DBpro in particular). Anything like Nuclear Glory dll, a 3rd party program, or just some lines of code. Does not matter if it is free or not if it is good and easy to use. Any help is appreciated!

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Damokles
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Posted: 16th Aug 2004 17:25
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What you are saying is kinda senseless.

Most games will have their specific A.I., you can not compare the A.I. for a pong-pad with the A.I. of a racing game or an FPS.
Even different rpgs have different A.I.
So, if you really want Artificial intelligence, can you please tell for what kind of game ?

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David T
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Posted: 16th Aug 2004 17:26
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Neofish was writing an AI pugin a while ago, it allowed you to write separate scripts I think.

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NathanF
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Posted: 16th Aug 2004 19:53
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Damokles is right. Ai is just a bunch of actions that are done if you reach specific conditions - it can be achieved using if/then statements, for example:
if ai_hp < 30 then gosub run_away else gosub attack
That line above can be coded in many ways, you can't really compare even if they do the same thing. The same goes for any DB programs, they can feel the same (like comparing 2 FPSs), but they are all coded differently.

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TKF15H
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Posted: 16th Aug 2004 21:57
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@David, You got the wrong F15H! I am making the plugin!

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zircher
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 00:09
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My answer of the day is that AI is technique and not code. For example, TKF15H is not giving you the AI, but a method for implementing your own via the plugin.

Understanding the principles of AI: A* path finding, state machines, flocking, influence mapping, etc. will enable you to create your own problem specific solutions. To that end, I strongly suggest sites with articles and essays on AI such as Amit's.

http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/gameprog.html
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TKF15H
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 00:28 Edited at: 17th Aug 2004 01:05
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Good answer of the day, Zircher.
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Though, I'm concidering the posibility of making my plugin capable of more than just scripting. Neural Networks are the main concern after scripting, coming in version 2 of the plugin.
Something like this maybe? http://openai.sourceforge.net/images/screenshotV0_2.jpg
but without the IDE. All properties will be set from within the DBP code.
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Here's another link that could be usefull:
http://www.ai-techs.com/index.html

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Killswitch
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 02:13
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How does a nureal network actually work (in simple terms)?

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 02:21
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In simple terms? Yeah right, like that's possible...

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GothOtaku
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 02:21
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A neural network is a collection of nodes with connections to other nodes. Data travels from an input node to an output node through different connections between the middle nodes. As it goes through the connection a different calculation is done on the data and sent to the next nodes in the sequence. At each node a certain calulation is done to normalize the data before it's sent back out. Neural networks are useful for fuzzy logic systems and pattern recognition. Hope this helps!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network
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Sir Spaghetti Code
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 02:23
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Sorry, I wrote this late at night (in the US). What I meant was exactly what some of you people mentioned. Scriptable AI programs for general 3-D games. I know EatMuchPie is working on one as well known as Checkpoint Router. Things of that nature.

How is it coming TKF15H?

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Sir Spaghetti Code
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 02:25
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I was just trying to make some enemy's in a sample program walk around in my little map, but they just run around in little circles, and I'm getting really disheartened, as I am having so much trouble with it!

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Quote: "David, You got the wrong F15H! I am making the plugin! "


Lol, too confusing

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TKF15H
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Posted: 17th Aug 2004 03:45
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Quote: "How is it coming TKF15H?"

Painfully. Gives me a headache after 5 minutes of coding.
Other than that, it's progressing slowly. I'm working on the scripting part of it ATM. Though, I'm moving to a new place this week so I haven't had much time. My room is in even more chaos than normal.

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