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The Wendigo
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2004 08:45
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I have 3 computers. They finally all have Windows XP on them. Unfortunetely, one of the computers is screwed up and XP will not work on it anymore (no folks there are key issues so a format will not cut it). The only thing I can really do is put Windows 98 back on it. The problem is every time I try to make a boot disk on any of the computers, it doesn't work. My last one finally made a boot disk, but now when I use it I get a disk IO error. Is Windows XP special ed and not know how to correctly deal with a 3.5 disk? I'd rather just use a boot CD but all the friggen programs out there cost (and making a boot CD is a lot more difficult than making a boot disk). Help!

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how about this: when's the last time you used your 3.5" drive?

if they sit unused for a long time (which i bet it has), the head starts to oxidize and it doesn't work as well.

try getting a cleaning disk, and cleaning all your drives, and try it again.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 01:38
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or just boot from cdrom


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If it's an old PC they often can't boot from CD without changing the boot order (in BIOS I think) so that might not be an option.

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true.
then get a new floppy drive. what are they now, $8?


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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 02:00
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If your going to put 98 back on for some reason, your going to have to re-format anyway...


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Good chance the floppy is stuffed too. I dug out some old floppies (between 5 years and *coff* 15 years old) recently and half of them had problems. And it wasn't the drive as I tried them on at least 3 machines without success, even 9X ones.

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Quote: "If your going to put 98 back on for some reason, your going to have to re-format anyway..."


Negative, two HD's. I plan ahead

And, also, at least one of these drives isn't that old. Plus, what software makes bootable CD's and is free? I've never heard of one, but if someone could point me in the right direction, that would be great.

Oh, and the Win98 CD isn't a boot CD so that isn't going to work.

Thanks for the help, though guys!

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Quote: "Oh, and the Win98 CD isn't a boot CD so that isn't going to work. "


because its not legit?, all of my win98se discs are bootable.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 17:37
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Win98 First edition = non bootable
Win98 Second edition = bootable

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Your floppy drive on that PC may be out of alignment and not be able to read disks produced in another machine. You could physically swap the drives over after making the disk if you are into that sort of thing.

Failing that making a boot CD is not hard, you simply make a boot disk, and tell whatever CD burner you have to read off the floppy disk image. You've already done the hard part - just dont forget to use a boot disk that has CD drivers configured... strange but true. This obviously doesnt apply to Adaptec software, which is best left to Apple Macintosh users who enjoy featureless applications.


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MS screwed something up with floppy drives with win2k and later. It's been a royal pain in the butt for me.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2004 18:18
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Quote: "Win98 Second edition = bootable"


It is? I've plopped that bad boy in and it just runs through like nothing is there. And it is legit and SE. Those dorks must have screwed my CD up or somthing. Oh yeah, it's NOT an upgrade either.

I'll try again, but currently my only boot CD's are Win XP CD's and they aint helpin!

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I can do that? Wow, cool! Anyways, I'd assume I need some software to do an entire image. All I use is the stupid WinXP built-in burner in explorer. I don't do a lot of CD-Burning. Not much need cuz I have a PDA and so my music goes on that and if im transfering files, I got a wireless network (which is down all a sudden... arg!)

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If I remember the 98SE CD's can come in bootable and non-bootable forms unfortunately - to guarantee bootable ones, you need a copy that is for computers with no OS.


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Posted: 5th Oct 2004 19:10
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Or you need to make sure your bios is set for the CD being the primary boot device.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 14:17
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bios set, CD is not an upgrade as I mentioned above. Oh well, I'll figure something else out. Isn't the first time I've had to leap Microsoft's tall buildings to get things done.

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That is pretty funny, i have 2 98SE discs non-upgrade (never use 98FE... tis gay), and tested them, and they both booted by CD.

So apparently, something is stopping the disc from booting. Maybe XP, i've seen that before. Where XP would just boot, no matter what the hell you have set as the primary boot.

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