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Geek Culture / Protection from a known hacker

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Sparda
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 09:06 Edited at: 4th Oct 2004 09:21
Ok, I know a lot of noobs come here convinced they have been hacked, but I'm not a noob. I'd just like some advice.

About 4 days ago I was having a problem with AOL. I sign on for 1 minute and then get disconnected with an error message saying my connection has been interrupted. Unusual yes, but given AOL's crappiness I shrugged it off. After two days of the nonsense I decided it was too much (especially since my parents were using AOL on a different computer and different screen name with out any problems). So I closed all ports with my firewall (Windows XP SP2 ICF) and the problem disapeared.

Now today, I decide to check my Earthlink email and see I have a message from my AOL account sent the night I was having all my problems. Contained in the email is an attachment of .zip with the "llddk.exe+" file inside. The email also contained some gibberish at the bottom: "Pass: 06314"
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I KNOW I didn't send that. I searched my comp for trojans using NAV and got nothing. I don't how to get rid of this. Help?

-Edit - Forgot another thing. Several times when I've been signed online at school I get bumped off. The error says my screenname has signed on at another location.


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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 09:10
Get rid of AOL...

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 09:29
someone has your aol account info
change your password
notify aol


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Ian T
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 09:44
Your problem can be summed up in two (four) words: AOL sucks. Not only is their software crappy user-side, but it is about the easiest database to hack into that exists on their end.

Of course, if either computer has a simple trojan, it easily could have sent that email without any hacking existing. There are many possibilities, all of which can be solved with a good spyware scan and a better ISP.


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Sparda
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 09:51
Thanks for responses everyone. As soon I can get in touch with my Dad, the master account holder, and let him know I'll change my password right away.

I have done full system scans with NAV, Spybot, and Adaware and they didn't pick up anything.

One more thing - several of my account settings have changed, those that control what I have access to.

I only use AOL 50% of the time and I don't have to pay for it which is always nice. The other 50% of the time I use my cable (yay)


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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 10:36
Do you have Adelphia?
Use cable all the time.
GayOL sucks.

Ian T
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 10:44
I recommend Verizon. We switched to them from Earthlink... 100% uptime now, and half again as fast broadband for a reduced cost. The customer support is worlds better. Very nice.


"Did you just call my girlfriend a cow?"
Indian Homie G
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 10:59
Quote: "Location: 127.0.0.1 "


If that's your real IP, it can't be any good to be advertising it to everyone.

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FoxBlitzz
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 11:05
Quote: "I only use AOL 50% of the time and I don't have to pay for it which is always nice."


Um... free versions of AOL steal your password.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 11:16
So....YOU WERE th guy I stole connection from...Really.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 11:20
Location: 127.0.0.1

that's localhost indian, sheesh

I don't like you.
Ilya
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 11:21
Quote: "your real IP"

How can 127.0.0.1 be your real IP?!
127.0.0.1 is your computer's IP. It's always 127.0.0.1 for everybody.

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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 11:34



"Did you just call my girlfriend a cow?"
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Posted: 4th Oct 2004 12:52
lol, 127.0.0.1 is called "local loopback" and is the ip assigned to systems main virtual adapter.


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Posted: 5th Oct 2004 19:11
to hax0r my computer, type 127.0.0.1 into your address bar.

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Torrey
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Posted: 5th Oct 2004 19:28
Almost sounds like your computer has a irc bot on it. If you're using a firewall the only way in would be to have the computer establish an outside connection, and that way is typically irc bots with hackers. With those bots the creator can upload any kind of virus, backdoor, keylogger or anything they'd like to your computer. Even if you report that problem to AOL, it'll still come back to haunt you. One thing you can do to see if it's a bot is, go to the command prompt and type netstat -a that will give you a list of active connections on your system. If you see an irc server then you know it's a bot, but it possible that some coders that produce these bots to hide the connection from the netstat list, and the running processes list. Let us know what you find.
Torrey
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Posted: 5th Oct 2004 19:34
@konrad

If you would, and still have that file you mentioned that was sent out. Email it to me: blackgate@blackgate.us

I work with anti-virus companies and virus writers themselves each day, and I can analyze that file for you.
Ilya
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 06:13
Does any antivirus keep the autoexe.bat file blank?

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No, but it will be blank in XP as its not used.


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Sparda
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 07:16 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 07:21
@Torrey - Yes, netstat was one of the reasons I thought I was be connected to. I noticed I had six connections as when usually there are only two through dialup. Thanks, I think I deleted the email in entirety, but I'll check. If it's still there, then I'll forward it.

Edit - Ok, I did have the email and I forwarded it to you guys. Thanks a lot, really. I didn't change anything about the email. The subject line reads



Sparda
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 07:21
Quote: ""I only use AOL 50% of the time and I don't have to pay for it which is always nice.""


I meant my parents pay for it

And thanks for clearing up the 127.0.0.1 controversy


Ilya
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 07:52
Tell them to stop. AOL doesn't deserve your money.

Torrey
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Posted: 6th Oct 2004 14:20 Edited at: 6th Oct 2004 14:20
The virus inside that file is Bagle.H.
Quote: "W32.Beagle.H@mm is a mass-mailing worm that opens a backdoor on TCP port 2745 and uses its own SMTP engine to spread through email. It also sends the attacker the port on which the backdoor listens, as well as the IP address. The email attachment is a randomly named .exe file inside a .zip file. The embedded .exe file is password-protected with a random password."


Since you didn't use a firewall before, I'm thinking that your computer reported back to one of those web servers to tell the creator which ip and port was open on your computer to access the backdoor. The hacker that entered your computer probably installed other backdoor features to grab information off your machine so in the case you discover the virus and remove it, the backdoor remains there. Once you visit the link below and check out the various places to remove the virus's remains check for other strange things too. For example in the registry under the key, HKEY_CURRENT_USERSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRun the other backdoor the hacker installed could be in there. He uses that key in the registry to start his backdoor or server each time the computer starts. Be sure to check the Startup folder in the start menu, sometimes this can contain hidden files that are also started when windows starts.

More detailed information and removal instructions can be found here: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.beagle.h@mm.html
Sparda
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Posted: 7th Oct 2004 07:27
Thanks man, really thanks a lot. I had already cleaned two worms I found in C:\Recycler\, but now I'll go back and take another look. Thanks again


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Posted: 7th Oct 2004 07:57
Quote: "notify aol"

BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHH
sorry...

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Sparda
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Posted: 7th Oct 2004 08:39
Scanned the computer with the BeagleFix tool and passed <yay> Yep, I'm guessing that's what I had. I read the whole documentation on the virus and it says it searchs for certain types of files on the computer for email addresses and then emails the virus there. That explains how they knew my earthlink address

Again thanks to everyone (especially Torrey) for their help.

The rest of you, thanks for laughing at my plight


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Posted: 7th Oct 2004 08:47
I used to keep trojans installed in hopes some newbie "hackers" would try my machine. For the more popular backdoor programs like sub7 and netbus, there were others that would trapped attackers and send funny messages back to them. It was quite amusing sometimes.

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