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Supremacy
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Posted: 8th Oct 2004 02:12 Edited at: 8th Oct 2004 21:17
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this is for Uberwiggett robx, i might have finished it later today.

[edit] - hardlinked the images to not get the page to heavy.
http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/goblin.jpg

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Great model. How do you people make your models look so good yet low poly?

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I agree, it looks like its coming along nicely. Out of curiosity, who did the concept pic, or is it from something?

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Posted: 8th Oct 2004 04:35 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 22:23
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http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/goblinfinal.jpg

finished, what you think guys ?? 772 polys , looks lyke concept doesnt ? dont now who did the picture, Uberwiggett robx sent it to me

so who likez the model plz post c&c

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Posted: 8th Oct 2004 04:53 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 22:23
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some more final screens

[edit] - hardlinked the images to not get the page to heavy.

http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/goblinf2.jpg
http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/goblinf1.jpg

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looks pretty good. There a serveral optimizations you could make. You could probably bring it down to around 700 (not sure as i havent seen the back). Personally I would like the see the ears reshaped to match the reference better. You could probably just grab all the outer verts and bring them up a ways. Also I think a larger nose/bridge and smaller mouth would look good.


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oh also. You might want to add some geometry to the palms and back of the hands. Right now if you tried to animate them you would see some pretty nast puckering.


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i froggermon, youre right about the mouth and ears, althoug i think im not gonna change the mouth cause i wont him to have a big smile, dont know yet, ill try bought your opinion and compare, about the geometry to the palms and back of the hands, im sorry im foreign, i dont understand what do you mean ? it has a vertice on both (palm and back)

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Yes, it does look nice.

Personally, I like that big smile (though its not textured yet, and that might change my mind), but I do agree with Froggerman about the nose and the ears.

Other than that, I think its great. Very nicely done, matches the concept pretty good. (I also like that concept a lot too )

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thanks a lot poha, you and froggermon are very kind, i cant believe my thread has been seen 89 times and only both of you posted !! why is this ? maybe model sux

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no.. thats pretty typical for forums.. 9-20 views for every one post.

I was gonna comment later on when it is closer to finished, but I like what I see so far

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thank you !

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holy freakin sheep!!!!!! that model is more awesome than i expected!!!! that is seriously just how i wanted that goblin to look out of that picture, the picture isnt mine i found it on the internet as some concept artwork by the guys who made a hq pc game, gourgan brothers or something, they have a logo print in teh top corner of that artwork. The ears could do with a little vulcan at the top, but leave the mouth the way it is, it fits teh picture style perfectly, i will texture it with big teeth all yucky and gobliny. and dude thanks that is the most awesomeest goblin i have seen!


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LOL... seems like is satisfied; you better be happy he's satisfied too... I've heard some not so nice things that pirate's do to people that they don't like...

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nice models

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I really like the style of your model great work

with a more precise texture it will become a really great low-poly model

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Posted: 8th Oct 2004 21:16 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 22:23
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well, you like it ? i didnt, i wasnt satisfied, it had to many flaws and didnt look like the concept, after a long night of critics from some guys at gamedev who told me where were the models flaws, i finally got it right, to mach the concept !

http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/fanatic_final.jpg

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hmm, not tooo sure about those last few pics, as i said the one sfrom before were awesome, the ears at teh moment are too curvy, they curve out too much, i reckon the old ears were good but just needed to be pointy at the top, and as for the boots ont eh newer versionthe top of them seem stoo puffy, seriously don't listen to those guys at game dev, they sound like fools btu anyway im still very impressed with your work, you've done an excellent job, just make those boot straps boot straps a lil less puffy and im sure it will be fine.


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nice model....
maybe different way for the hand should be good in case you want animate it ...but anyway it's great stuff i like the haed very much

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i accept very well C&c's but i think im right on this one (and im usually worng) , just take a look ate the top one and then at this one, i might latter today take 2 pictures of both side by side if people still has doubts. i prefer much more the second, has i now can see the flaws on the first very well, hey brent psionic ? can u do a lil review ?

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Its incredible.

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In the second picture, the goblin wouldnt be able to bring his legs close enough together to walk, he would kind of woddle (spelling?) around like a duck. In the first picture the boots are smaller which would let him walk more realisticly.

I like the first one better


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Posted: 8th Oct 2004 22:21 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 22:24
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Quote: "In the second picture, the goblin wouldnt be able to bring his legs close enough together to walk, he would kind of woddle (spelling?) around like a duck. In the first picture the boots are smaller which would let him walk more realisticly."


i agree, although i think the first boots are too fragile, goblins have big feet has the one looking left in concept shows us, so i just tapped a little is boots but mantained the second pic look, anyway, im going for the second pic, its more professional, althoug i can understand that some of u say the 1st better.

http://mustra.home.sapo.pt/gostomais.jpg

corrected boots, final model maybe ?!?

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yeah, where you have pointed out the what you call errors, i can see what you mean with the sleeves on the shirt, and the rounding at the boots, but i just thing teh overflap on the boots on the second one is too big, maybe scale it down a little, and im still not too big on the curve of the ear, maybe try just making the tip of the ear of the first one pointed. still they are both great models. Also with the boot straps boot straps (sorry i keep referrign to that potc quote) make them join up to teh boot a bit more, seeing as they are folded down tightly over the boot irl dont have them so flared at the bottom.


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I agree about what Rob is saying about the ears. Though I like the extra detail in the shape in general, they do seem too curved. In the concept, they look fairly straight compared to what you have in the second pic. Unless your going off the goblin on the right (in the concept) but I think he's just at an odd angle anyways.

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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 00:59 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 22:24
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done the mods u wonted guys, c&c,

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The old one was great. This one is somehow even better!

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if you look into the top of the boot you can see white space...besides that (and the ears) the new one is better...


just make those little poofy things attach to the leg, and lower the top of the ear a tad and it should look better...

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ye, its not yet welded, torso with legs arms legs boots, not yet welded, im gonna get this guy on hold, gotta do some other stuff, after that ill post this dude textured.

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yeah that looks much better. wow you're gonna texture him too! thats great!, i'd help with some skins but it'd need to be co ordinated so i'll leave it up to you for now, and yeah take your time dude work on the other stuff you need to do, there is no hurry on my game as of yet.


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ok did the uvw, start texturing.

BRENT: i can already aplly some advance tecnics in body/arms/legs/ uv's
but i suck at head display uvs, and multisurface like boots and hands (although hands is easy) , can you point me out any tut about head uv ? or boot's uv ?

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I cant but good to see that it's coming along nicely, when you get the uv map done send it accross an di will see if i can get a nice texture for it. unless u want to do it, or we can both do it it doesnt matter, i might want a few diff skins for the model, to signify a few diff goblins.


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It just gets better...

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nice model

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started bonning for animation.

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You know SP, I may rag on you A LOT but your models are coming along quite nicely.

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nice work on teh texturing too, though i might add some detail to teh greenskin myself when I get hold of the model, and holy crap you're animating it too! or you just readying it for someone else to animate, cause if you are gonna animate try just doing a walk thing, then if you want to do full animations talk to me so i can give you a list of what im looking for. and uhh i have to ask, whats that third long bone for


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Quote: " and uhh i have to ask, whats that third long bone for "


LMAO...

Great job there, Supremacy... you are indeed supreme. As far as modelling cool looking goblins go...

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thanks a lot guys, the third bone is the main model bone, wich controls model's bones general orientation, also usefull for positioning and ataching it for instance, a chariot or horse. Im arranging my netscape bookmarks , been doing it for 3 hours, arshhh, only get half of it, then ill need to reweld soem models stuff cause in animation the shoulders get messed up , ill get the model bonned and bonne assignes later tonight. ill do running animation.

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hehe just kiddin supreme i know what the third one is for, i was just saying how i don't think goblins are that well endowed.


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lolol

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how fares the battle? cause if you check the theory board planning on using the gobbo for another mog game that is in the works.


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Quote: "started bonning for animation."
Wouldn't it just be easier to just rig it, who would you be boning anyway, your cd drive?

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lol, i meant rigging

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That's good, 'cause I'm already boning your CD drive.

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I think I should hide my computer.

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Very nice, SP. I wish I had half your talent...
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thanks tranquil chaos, ill post new stuff soon, ive been apart from my computer for the last couple of weeks, damm i miss my keyboard !

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