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heartbone
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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 02:04
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It's so hard to know what to believe concerning the events of 9-11.
Originally I had thought that these pages documenting the "Pterodactyl" was composed of faked imagery.

Giant Birds 1
Giant Birds 2
Giant Birds 3
Giant Birds 4

However after viewing this video, my mind has changed!

Observe the sky during the thirteenth second of play.

Conventional flying objects do not move that quickly without emitting a sonic boom, breaking windows and eardrums.

What do you think?

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Neofish
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couldnt it just be spinning shrapnel, looking like a big bird because of the shape and the way it spins through the air, causing it to move differently?

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Eric T
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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 02:13
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Pterodactyl, now that makes my day. Completely absurd.

Looks to me like some ordinary debri. I mean it was a building exploding next to it. This rates right in there with the "Satan in the Smoke" one.

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Ian T
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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 02:22
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Well, at least this was a good laugh. Seriously, you've got to really, desperatly want to believe something like that to do so...


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Dazzag
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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 03:30
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Quote: "It's so hard to know what to believe concerning the events of 9-11"
Yes, fair enough. There has been a lot of talk since 911 and it's enough to totally confuse anyone. But to believe (or even to wonder about) in a massive super fast dinosaur zooming by is just one step past getting lifetime membership to the rubber room farm. Say it's a UFO. That would go down better in the US.

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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 08:32
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As HeartBone says, its clearly the Shadows (from Babylon 5, not the former rock band with Hank Marvin in it). But not to worry - Captain John Sheridan will be along soon to handily defeat them.

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No, no. It is clearly one of those winged robotic fighters from Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. The cover story is that you're supposed to think that they were only 3D computer graphics.

An electronic malfunction caused the robotic fighter to veer off course and in the confusion the jet liners were electronically hijacked, lost control, and mistakenly collided with the World Trade Center (um, twice.)

The Hollywood power brokers smelled a lawsuit of epic proportions and planted the clues to implicate the terrorists. After all, they already had the script for that movie. Of course, the orginal production crew has to be liquidated. They even crashed a few other planes to throw off the scent.
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Posted: 9th Oct 2004 10:33 Edited at: 9th Oct 2004 10:35
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guys i can't believe you don't believe these images! CLEARLY al quieda have in the past captured Dr. Hammond an dput him in a hidden cave lab where they have forced him to genetically alter his dinosaurs (which he plucked from mosquito dna in amber,) so they would be super fighting machines, the pterodactyl was smuggled aboard the plane that crashed into teh tower, IT was what hijacked the plane, which explains why no one could do anything to stop the terrorist cause its a freaking dinosaur! i mena they'd all seen jpark 3 by then and know that you cant fug with a pterodactyl, but just before the impact the pterodactyl was ordered to abandon the plane as to leave no trace as to not alert the people of america to this cunning plot.

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heartbone
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Posted: 10th Oct 2004 07:26 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 08:07
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It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's....

Then on this page
this video

is analyzed.

Here's eye-popping
CNN video from a CNN server
(Choose the Quick Time format)
It appears to me the second half of the video where it repeats is slow motion enhanced to better show the "bird". Good old CNN.

This is the original full size video.

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Posted: 10th Oct 2004 07:45 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 08:02
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http://thewebfairy.com/911/bird/notbird.wmv

Watch this (not sure which frame) but, you can see a shadow in the blue sky imbetween the towers. Not many birds or planes can do that .

Edit cause of my compass F'UP

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heartbone
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I saw that compass flip, no problem.

I also saw that sky shadow in the clip.
It this were a video hoax, they would not have made that mistake. Some sort of projection maybe?

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heartbone
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Posted: 10th Oct 2004 09:36 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 09:59
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The more I analyze it, the more I think that my original conclusion was correct, the first set of Pterodactyl pictures represents doctored imagery.

After looking at the orignal video, I think the CNN video does seem to show an actual bird. So Eric T, I agree the shadow video is probably a hoax. Why would someone do that?

Just maybe the video represented by the inline animated gif actually captured a synchronized bird, that's totally possible. However, that first video is very hard to explain with the blurred object apparently emerging from behind the building.


I've read in more than one place that some people reported that they thought that there were fighter jets were in the area around the time of the second impact. Like with JFK in Dallas, we may never know what really happened.

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Posted: 10th Oct 2004 11:24 Edited at: 10th Oct 2004 11:26
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People, it's a frikkin' piece of shrapnal. When a passenger plane full of airplane fuel hits a skyscraper, you get a lot of shrapnal.

It's unbelievable the conclusions people draw from some things-- anything that seems odd. Every major world event has some group that refuses to fully believe it, from Magellan's voyage to JFK's assassination to the moon landing to 9/11. Refusing to believe Elvis is dead, thinking Bush plotted 9/11, channeling spirits, starting those Roswell conspiracy theory sites... that I can, to some extent, understand. But dear god in heaven, a PTERODACTYL? I suppose it's the logical progression from 'black helicopters' ...


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Wiggett
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Posted: 10th Oct 2004 14:26
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shrapnel hey.... hmmm. i still reckon its the dr hammond thing.


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In Peru, people have said that they have seen pterodactyl's, and that it's not very uncommon to see them. Think about it... if the school's have been teaching that pterodactyls have been extinct for millions of years, and they find pterodactyls around places, would they change the books? Would the scientists apoligize?

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Posted: 11th Oct 2004 04:37
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Bwahaha. That website is scarey. They are really reaching for that hoax theory. I mean, everything they mention is utter cack, especially the amateur photographers "zooming out" thing. Anyone whos used a video camera for more than 5 minutes gets used to the zoom and learns to zoom out when they want to capture something that's not in the current field of view. It's amazing that someone can conclude that wouldn't happen. Wow. Some people are just truly pathetic.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2004 11:51 Edited at: 11th Oct 2004 11:51
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Mouse, though I doubt it's a Pteradactyl, what is it. It certainly isn't a piece of shrapnel, it comes from out of behind the smoke, and moving downward ultra fast. Shrapnel is still bound to the laws of physics, and the way that plane hit the building, there is no way that black streak was part of it. Watch the video closely.. no way is it part of the plane.

I don't know what it is.

and another thing, why would a pteradactyl be in NYC? And why would it be around a bunch of firey plane crashes... or are you telling me it was escaping the building?


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"it comes from out of behind the smoke"

actually, if you watch the movie very closely, and place the time slider right under the 'o' in "of", you'll notice that the black thing is in fact *in front of* the smoke and left tower. it's also very out of focus, and the only way to explain it going so fast is that it's relatively close to the camera. fly, bird etc.

uberwiggett - your first post had me rolling.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2004 12:36 Edited at: 11th Oct 2004 12:36
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I'd be interested in knowing where the laws of physics dictate that a piece of dark-colored metal can't be flung downwards by an explosion


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jerico, there were two objects in that crash, teh plane, and the tower, the shrapnel didnt necessarily come from teh plane, it could have been anythign from the building, for instance maybe some quick thinking office clerk saw teh incoming plane and decided to push a table out of the window so he could escape (so he was quick thinking , but nto smart enough to know what floor he was on.) and due to his wimpy office clerk strength he wasn't quick enough to get it out before the impact. anyway if it isnt digitally altered in there it's most likely shrapnel from the crash. Or it's my original theory with dr hammond, seriously where is that guy?


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Posted: 11th Oct 2004 14:21 Edited at: 11th Oct 2004 14:24
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drakeX's explanation is the most logical. I didn't realize the streak came from in front of the smoke, or I would've stated that. It was my first guess, but I didn't think it was in front of the smoke.

No, even with the force of the explosion, it wouldn't have flown like that. That object would be HUGE.. and when I say huge.. i mean the size of the frigging building is horizontally! As well as the fact that it would've been pulled down by gravity, and thus have been arching.

[edit] i correct myself, it would be *moving* the speed of a width of the building, not even the explosion or plain was moving that fast, so how could an object being hit by it be moving faster? And the object would be the size of two stories or more, i mean, look at it!

(if the object, were in fact coming from behind the smoke, and not an object right in front of the cam)


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Rest in piece conspiracy theory


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