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Northern Lights
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 01:27
If the FPSC gets its physics engine deal (or something like that) would you be able to put in ragdolls?

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Mussi
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 02:29
yes.



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Bob 3456
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 02:56
it looked like it from the movie, when he shot the guy he fell over pretty realisticlly
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 03:34 Edited at: 23rd Oct 2004 03:34
Quote: "it looked like it from the movie, when he shot the guy he fell over pretty realisticlly "

that was an animation though..

apperantly they will release a physics expansion next year sometime...which would include ragdolls

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Northern Lights
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 03:37
ahhhh. okay

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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 05:43
yeah i did look realilistic exept for you had to shott him three times with a shotgun to kill him

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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 06:42
it might be because of his armor


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Ian T
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 13:30
It might be because it's a first person shooter, and first person shooters can not allow people to kill enemy players at medium range with just one or two shots . Game balance!


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Posted: 23rd Oct 2004 21:12
I would hope they had ragdolls in, but another concern of mine is physics. They say they're making a major deal, and having Havoc physics in it would be amazing, but my concern is how easy would it be to assign physics to something? Would you simply have to set its weight and density or would you have to get your coding hat on to get a decent result?

Its still gonna rock my world redguardless though.

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Posted: 24th Oct 2004 07:18 Edited at: 24th Oct 2004 07:21
"but my concern is how easy would it be to assign physics to something?"

Good point, i do know this, im not going to get it if it doesnt have rag doll physics

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Posted: 24th Oct 2004 10:32 Edited at: 24th Oct 2004 10:40
Don't get it then. That should be a no brainer. Just wait for a later release. Personally, I think Havoc is over priced given what I have seen with the Newton physics library.
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PS. But, I can see licensing it because of its name value. I guess that would make it more a business decision than an actual coding necessity.

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Ian T
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Posted: 24th Oct 2004 11:21
Quote: "Personally, I think Havoc is over priced given what I have seen with the Newton physics library."


The thing about Havok is its speed and its durability. Newton is great as long as it lasts... but try running a Newton stress test with 1000 crates versus a professional engine. It just doesn't hold up. It's fantastic for what it is, but not quite good enough for products like Half-Life 2 .


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Rob K
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Posted: 25th Oct 2004 08:08
FPSC does not have ragdoll physics at the moment. What you saw in the video was just one of the death animations. It does have some limited physics, in the sense that enemies fall over in different directions depending on where you shoot them, and rocket explosions will move objects around. As for what will happen in the future, I am not sure.


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Posted: 26th Oct 2004 02:26
No ragdolls in the first release and no Havok ever - do you guys have a clue how much that costs to license?

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Rob K
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Posted: 26th Oct 2004 04:24
Quote: "do you guys have a clue how much that costs to license? "


I'm guessing over $100,000 US.


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Posted: 26th Oct 2004 06:42
wrong robk , it costs 200.000 us$

Northern Lights
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Posted: 26th Oct 2004 06:58
heh, ouch.

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Posted: 26th Oct 2004 07:11
And I'm guessing that's only for one lisence



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