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my brother has been trying to keep me from running a server(and our inet is fast and i limit everything so he can tell no speed difference) and now has turned his pc into an unblockable firewalled bridge and now i cant even directly access my dsl modem form the ip and am having a lot of problems such as now i also cant play over 10 game i have that are online based and you know what he could really give a f*ck less about me he just wants to be in control and for me not to run a server(and no i dont interfere with himn cause he dont run a server)

so now my question is how can i config my modem to open the port to his pc then his pc open the port to my pc

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Posted: 1st Nov 2004 14:03
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stab him, thne see how he stops you. but i think if youw anna get rid of his firewallyou will have to access his pc, or just tell him to go to hell and plug the modem into yoru pc, but you'd have to reconfig your internet settings cause right now I am assuming the net is shared. I never really had this problem cause me and my brother both played onlien games, when we got the bandwitdh limit we jsut made sure we didn't go over it.


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my bro has a sharing problem and is 4 years older than me and my mom does nothing to him although i already got access to his pc in safe mode(he is generic at passwords) so i guess i will config the modem then config his pc(i hope this dont get locked for sort of being in relation to hacking)

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perhaps your isp wont allow webservers, I know many dont like it.
Have u tried to reason with him or your mum.
Tell them what you want to achieve, ask to have certain hours up to test it.

this seriously isnt a guidance counselling website is it/.?

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Let me get this straight... you and your brother both have your own PCs, which both have ethernet connections going into the same DSL modem / router?


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Posted: 1st Nov 2004 19:14
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Something like what happens at my House, our internet is set up like this

Main computer downstairs where cable box is
I get my internet thru that computer
My bro gets his internet thru my computer

So whenever my brother is downloading tons of files, I can simply unplug his internet


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Ilya
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Quote: "my brother has been trying to keep me from running a server(and our inet is fast and i limit everything so he can tell no speed difference) and now has turned his pc into an unblockable firewalled bridge and now i cant even directly access my dsl modem form the ip and am having a lot of problems such as now i also cant play over 10 game i have that are online based and you know what he could really give a f*ck less about me he just wants to be in control and for me not to run a server(and no i dont interfere with himn cause he dont run a server)

so now my question is how can i config my modem to open the port to his pc then his pc open the port to my pc"


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Ilya, Can you not post proper answers? T'was not very helpfull...
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My router is a foot from my room. The cable comes through the wall into my room and into my hub. Then two more cables come out so I can watch TV...this allows one other person to use the DSL unless I am out. Also I am the only one that knows how to use any of the PCs proprerly and I am the system admin

I think you should tell him your not setting up a server, and that you have right to the connection too. Once he lets out (or you have to resort to more drastic measures) make a server and merely say it is defragging

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Quote: "Search google for the "Format" command."


Search google for "netiquette". You're a pain at the moment.

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I'm a BIG pain

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Life is much simpler in our house. There is one wireless ADSL router, and everyone just connects via laptops (3 older IBM X30 ThinkPads which will do just about everything people need bar playing Doom 3 and only cost £300-£500 each second-hand), plus my own PC which links in via the ethernet.

Easy come, easy go, and no worrying about people blocking your 'net access.


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Same here except cable and different comps.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2004 08:37
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ok
now to answer this as a summary

my brother will not reason he just says no it will screw up the modem if u foward the ports my mom dont know enough about computers and wont do anything to my brother im using dsl and i am actually routed thru his pc so now it is slow(it was about 180kbs at dl now it is 90kbs at dl) he isnt here over half of the time so he has no worrys about speed and i cant just walkin and get on his computer cause i will get in trouble and my brother logs everything (plus he has a screen saver that comes on in 2 hours so if i move the mouse he can tell)

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2004 08:43 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2004 08:53
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Quote: "or you have to resort to more drastic measures"

You heard the fish.
(jk)

Is there any chance you can beat up you brother?

My segestion:
When he's away, log into his PC and delete the firewall.
Or delete it over the network(there should be some config files that you could delete, that the firewall will start without). Then, delete the logger.


(only if he really pisses you off...)
Search Google for overclock. If you find a resault that tells you how to script an overclock, read it. Then, create a program that overclocks everything by 500ghz. No more computer, no more firewall.

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How much space and bandwith do you need for your server. Why not just search for some free or cheap space and set up a server on a web service.
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I like Ilya's Idea! Or, to make things simpler:

Get a big metal baseball bat/hammer.

Hit his computer until you can no longer tell what it is.

Run like crazy and scream the Golden Grahms theme song.

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lol

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I don't let my brother setup a net-server either...
I have my reasons behind this, mainly is that I don't want to try and check a page on MSDN and have to wait 6years for some retard to stop surfing my brothers site just so I can view the page.

Terminal / Optical Cable lines, are the only *real* viable method of hosting a Server. Simply because they are designed for upto 65K Connections at once. Cable modems are usually design for upto 16max, my NTL one will only handle 3 Download, 3 Upload Streams; but because I have all operations routed through a single server, this means every computer on my network uses the same Upload/Download stream... games also will route multiple connections through a single stream.

In this fashion Games networking methods allow as many people as your connection speed will allow.
However, that isn't how Web Servers work; they use multiple access points; in order to prevent data overlapping and people hacking other people (IPVSec6). It is for everyone elses safety; as such standard home connections are not designed for that amount of streams. Furthermore alot of them although they don't have a limit on data overall bandwidth, they DO almost certainly have a limit on throughput bandwidth (the calls and recieved for connections).
Also as most will *not* have network task queing, (which believe me is a pain in the ass waiting for someone elses page to load before yours does, hense why i changed the network setup here) it will mean that anyone additional trying to reach your host will simply get a 505, too many network connections.

Really if you want to do this stuff, then you should talk to your brother about why he won't let you, and also discuss with him possible solutions you could have.

At the end of the day, web-servers are the most demanding things you can put on a computer network wise. game-servers are the most demanding things you can put on a computer resource wise.
Also unless you happen to understand networking fully, you will not be able to fixx problems that could arrise (suchas renewable IPs, as most Static Cable IPs are DHCP leased, for 2-12months)


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Raven, do you type extremely fast, or do you just have a lot of time on your hands?

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the reason i dont use a web host is
(1)uploading everything is sooooooo annoying(especially without ftp)
(2)eversince dbspot left i dont know where to get good free hosting
(3)i like the power of running and being the admin of my server
(4)i was planning to do a free-hosting service but i have fo rthe most part abandoned the idea

and one more thing that still wouldnt solve the pronblem cause i cant run a server on halo either(my fav game)(and it is a temp server that runs until i get bored)
and my bro is never home at day so he never has ot worry about slowness and at nite when he is home(and using his pc) i hardly ever get nay hits(the most hits i got at night was 20 and those were html 3kb hits) and my website never takes long to load cause it has no bg image(if anyone has seen it they would know wut i mean)

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Cut his LAN access when he's not home. If his your PC gets internet from his PC, then LAN your PC to the router.

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u not understand
anywya i guess i will ifnd a temp host while i wait

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I used to have a similar problem with a broadband modem and proxy. Best way around it is to connect to the broadband with a router, and link all the PC's to it with LAN cables. It gives each PC their own connection, rather than sharing one and all the setup and security annoyances that go with it.


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My family just has one modern interenet connected computer, an ancient old thing built in 1995 by my Uncle(without internet and requires a win95 floppy disk in permenantly in order to run) and a Laptop that used to be my other uncles but which he gave me for my birthday(and I can connect this using a 56K modem or through the modern computer.(broadband))

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well my bro finally got tired of hearing me gripe and changed the net config and now i can run a server so now it should be up

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I see the nag method worked a treat.

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Oh yeah, I just realized you could've hosted on a diffrent port(84).

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