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Geek Culture / DarkBASIC Professional for schools?

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Dodo
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 00:10 Edited at: 15th Nov 2004 00:11
I was browsing round the site just now and I came across a special offer for DB free for schools. I was wondering, is DBPro available free for schools? cos I would really like to have DBPro lessons and see how many times I can catch my teacher out . DB lessons would be ok, but I would prefer DBPro, cos then I could work on my projects at school as well. Is it going to ever happen?

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Oneka
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 00:13
OH! thats what they took from out of the forum the Darkbasic Teacher thread xD I knew something was missing...


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Kentaree
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 00:30
Yeah, it could've been a bit better advertised.

@Dodo: One of the main reasons of this is to show schools what DB can do, while knowing it has limitations. If the schools like it enough, TGC hope they might buy licenses for DBP, so it's unlikely that they'll be doing the same thing with DBP.

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Ilya
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 02:14
Or the people in the schools.

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Ali M Oldboy
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 02:17
DBpro will be a little too advanced for schools (just an opinion)
But you'll never know! It could be alright for them!

I mean it IS a good idea, but I think that some people will
get stuck on it.

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GothOtaku
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 08:54
No, the game development club at my school tried contacting them about getting 10 free lisences for DBPro but they shot us down.
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 09:24
I wouldn't count on it. I'm in the first semester programming class at my high school and the third semester students they lumped with us are already way ahead of many of the DB coders around here.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 09:32
Quote: " DBpro will be a little too advanced for schools (just an opinion)"


if DBpro is too advanced for schools, then Java, C++, and C# are all WAY to advanced for schools, but yet, i learned JAva last year, and am learning C# this year...interesting

there is no such thing as "to advanced" if you have a good enough teacher and you have the proper background


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Preston C
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 09:50
Quote: "Quote: " DBpro will be a little too advanced for schools (just an opinion)"

if DBpro is too advanced for schools, then Java, C++, and C# are all WAY to advanced for schools, but yet, i learned JAva last year, and am learning C# this year...interesting"


Yeah, same here. My high school teaches Java, AP Java, Visual Basic, and C++ too (and it's only a matter of time until I persuade the school to upgrade their 15 year old C++ compilers and put back the AP C++ course).

So, if we have this, I'm pretty sure that people could learn Dark Basic Pro in intermediate school in no time.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 11:58
Quote: "put back the AP C++ course"

shame it's not the schools disition tho.

when we had C++ AP, we had about 40people at the start of the year, then about 20 in the end. last year when i took javaAP, it had about 20 at the start of the year and 7 at the end...
this year, we only had 12 kids sign up for it, so they didnt have that class this year because not enough people signed up for it


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Posted: 15th Nov 2004 13:10
Programming is simple. Its just how you under stand it.

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Luke B
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Posted: 16th Nov 2004 01:05
My school has Delphi. Nothing else - the IT staff hate VB. I find Delphi easy to learn, and I'm 13. I'm even *attempting* assembly. Next - C ++.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2004 02:03
It's nothing to do with how difficult the language is, it's to do with the curriculum material available for it.

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Damokles
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Posted: 17th Nov 2004 01:32
I tested the free version today in school. It's going to be a hard work.

Quote: "it's to do with the curriculum material available for it."

There is much more to it :
We have to check
- does it match with what the national education system want to be taught ?
- Is there any teacher who is confident enough to teach it ?
- Is the principal agreeing ?
- Is there enough time for it ? (besides the lessons that have to be done)
- Will it be useful for the pupils ?
- ...

There are so many factors.

I would like to create a pedagogic folder to share the ways of teaching it, and why teaching it. If there is some other teacher here, please email-me, I'll be glad to exchange informations about it.

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Chris K
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Posted: 17th Nov 2004 02:31
Just so you know I did my AS Computing coursework in DBPro. They'll probably wonder why it's about 2Mb and it's a text program.

I thought about doing it in Dev C++ but there's no point.

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