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Dot Merix
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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 10:22 Edited at: 12th Dec 2004 10:23
You guys want to read a frigging awesome article, here it is...

http://www.jsonline.com/alive/news/dec04/281287.asp

In case you need more info about what it is.. University of Wisconsin-Madison opened up the skulls of two guys, and implanted electrodes onto their brain.. After a few weeks(or was it months?) time, they were able to control a mouse cursor on a computer, aswell as play pong just by thinking about it.

Check it out!



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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 10:30
We are the Borg


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Dot Merix
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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 10:31
I definately see that point.



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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 11:13
You will be assimilated.


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Ilya
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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 11:32
Mine'll be better once I figure out how to control the spinal coord with electricty.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 11:56
Wow, that's crazy. This'll lead to creation of cyborgs...you know, people who's lost limbs will get robotic ones put on in place, and they'll have chips put into their brains so they can control the arms...

Crazy.


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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 17:59
i knew it, seriously it may be a lot of research but teh idea behidn it is simple. The way i see it, is measure brain patterns while someone is thinking of the colour yellow, then measure the patterns when they think of the colour green, then red, then blue, and then get them to think of the colours in any order, record the patterns that come out, and judge off those readings what colours they were thinking of, and if its right then bam you got urself a colour mind reader, expand the tests to include other things and then try and mix them, so you can eventually get a yellow car driving down a dirt road. thats just to get an image of a persons thought, to controll software is basically just get them to think of moving a mouse right, then record that pattern, then when that pattern is replayed move the mouse right. i tell ya i should run the world's science.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 20:02
its a cover up. they're actually trying to find excuses to prob everyone and read their thoughts.

as for the computer game, i dont get it... what happens if they think about doing something in advance?

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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 23:29
The game would probably be like a new muscle?

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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 23:34
Well what if you brain really gets into the game, and when your video game character dies, your brain thinks it's been killed, or shot or something, and starts slowing breathing, and heart-rate, and you die!!!!

Guns arnt the problem, people are the problem, shoot all the people and guns arnt a problem anymore.
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Posted: 12th Dec 2004 23:36
No. You just lose control of your muscle. If someone cut your leg off and you didn't lose any blood, would you die?

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 00:20
well if u didnt loose any blood then chances are that ur leg got chopped off by something very hot hence sealed the cut. surely u'd die of shock from that?

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 00:26 Edited at: 13th Dec 2004 00:27
Probably not.

Ok, what if the nerve broke?

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 00:51
shock of seeing u have no leg

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 01:08
I doubt you would die from that.

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Dot Merix
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 01:33
Get back on topic



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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 02:00
I would be shocked to see my leg cut off, but then I would remember that they can just give me a cybornetic leg, attach it to my brain and I'm off again. No problem.


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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 02:25
/me imagines jimmy as a spider

Benjamin
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:13
Wow, amazing. As Uberwiggett robx, the idea is simple, and the idea of using it to control limbs could be possible. I reckon if you could use a kind of pattern that you hardly ever use(like thinking a different way) then you could use that for controlling limbs/computers/jimmy/whatever without the risk of them going retarded when you think about food, or girls.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:27 Edited at: 13th Dec 2004 11:31
Or maybe you should use the nervous system.
Edit: The muscular part of it.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:28
Your my bestest buddy Aura.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:30
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=44152&b=2

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:36
And you're leafly Benjamin.

A very interesting read. Think of the possibilities for people with paralysis.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:39
Yes, all we have to do is cut their limbs off, and replace them with plastic ones!!!

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:41
Or just take some wires, and put them into thier back and brain, instead of chopping off the rest of thier body.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:42
Wow the hell is that gonna help?

Arrrrr ya scurvy lads eeeeeeeee!

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Ilya
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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:47
By allowing them to use things below the damaged area of thier back!!!

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Posted: 13th Dec 2004 11:49
Oh right ok..cool

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Posted: 14th Dec 2004 06:14
Quote: "your brain thinks it's been killed, or shot or something, and starts slowing breathing, and heart-rate, and you die!!!!"


What are you talking about? Your brain is you, not an independent being between your ears. The only way IT will "think it's dead" is if you actually think that you're dead. Lol.


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Posted: 14th Dec 2004 06:18
Quote: "What are you talking about? Your brain is you, not an independent being between your ears. The only way IT will "think it's dead" is if you actually think that you're dead. Lol"


Essentially true but tell me, do you make your heart beat? I thought so, the brain can shut down functions like the heart without you wanting it to happen, but the brain can't do that if it's dead so everything ends there....

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Posted: 14th Dec 2004 08:21
Who said you can control all of you?

And the brain/body is a lot like Windows:

It uses quite a lot of recources.
It's very unstable.
It does everything for you not telling you what it's doing.
It has thousands if not millions of exploits.
It gets attacked by viruses daily.
It's the only thing humans use(for a brain).
It patches itself often.
It reporduces very often.
Take one part off and it goes down.
Something else.

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