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Teh Go0rfmeister
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does anyone else notice the frustration involved in trying to use the forum tags in comparison to internet explorer?

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Benjamin
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Posted: 14th Dec 2004 01:29 Edited at: 14th Dec 2004 01:30
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Yup. When I first started using Firefox, I used to highlight some text, hit the quote button, and it would quote nothing

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JeBuS
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I've never had a problem with using the tags in Firefox. There was one instance where the links would be changed to something else, but I think that has more to do with the forum software not accepting certain characters than it does Firefox.


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Jeku
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It's not a Firefox bug, but a JavaScript difference between IE and Mozilla-based browsers. I believe it would require a few changes to the JavaScript code, but I haven't asked Rich.


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I have problems using the tags. When I hit the the tag button or smiley it *always* adds to the end of the text and not where I have the cursor.

It's sort of a shame really, considering that 'get firefox' icon at the bottom right of each page ...

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Cian Rice
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Yeah I agree with you there Ian.

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Benjamin
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Yeah, I thought these forums were designed for Firefox or something

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JeBuS
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Posted: 14th Dec 2004 12:29
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hmm, I didn't know that was a bug. It happens in all forum software I've ever used, so I just assumed it was how it worked.


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I just formatted and my bro is tryin to ween me off ie onto firefox, its ok i'm using it and not ie, but for somereason it seems to take ages to load these forums, and pretty much every other site I go to, my bro said that it's supposed to save the pictures etc so when u go back its all there like ie is supposed to, but this is ridiculously slow loading of images for my broadband connection. used to not see the empty squares with the picture icon, now I see it all the time.

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bitJericho
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it's probably because of the way firefox displays it's pages in the loading process..

IE often times loads a few of the images first before it starts to display the page, it seems to be random, sometimes it'll display no images and load them one by one screen, or it'll load everything and then display them afterward..

Firefox and Mozilla appear to load the document first and then load all the images one by one.

That's probably why you never noticed it before. For your connection, IE seemingly loads everything at once with a few seconds of what it appears to be searching for the page.

Firefox will load the page seemingly instantaneously followed up by the images afterward.


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Firefox will save the images if you enable caching, so does IE

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Jerico2day - He means when you press the bold, underline or any other button, Firefox messes up and doesn't create the tag in the correct place.
I should point out, IE doesn't have any problems like that.

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that's not what I was referring to, I was referring as to how the pages are displayed through the loading process


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I know, but El Goof was refering to what I mentioned.

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Yeah, but I think Jerico2day was responding to Robx's comments.


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Teh Go0rfmeister
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rich says he knows the bug, and he tried to fix it, but then it worked fine for firefox but not for IE

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Quote: " but then it worked fine for firefox but not for IE "


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No, it should work with both, but its probably a error in Firefox (which they cant be bothered to fix).

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Posted: 18th Dec 2004 23:28
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It works well on Invision v2 with both FF and IE.
BTW it's not an error in Firefox. Most boards where it works on IE only use non-W3C-standard methods and properties.

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 19th Dec 2004 16:12
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who blamed firefox?

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Me - its a problem with Firefox, I tell you!

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It's an interesting point... the 'standard' methods and properties are supported by less PCs than the 'non standard' ones

I know that there are official standards people are meant to follow - but given the dominance of IE, isn't it a standard itself?

Also another thing - I'd much prefer to write < br > rather than < br / > - yet the latter is what you're meant to write. My personal view is that HTML is a language that's going to morph depending on what people find easiest to use - just like spoken languages.
If we have strict rules enforced on the way to code in HTML, we'd be going down the path taken by Latin (look what happened to that!)

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Quote: "If we have strict rules enforced on the way to code in HTML, we'd be going down the path taken by Latin (look what happened to that!)"


yeah, it'd suck if we were still using html thousands of years from now.


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Teh Go0rfmeister
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we need a universal web language, like html, css, php and all the others combined, it'd make life a hellof a lot easier.

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But then IE would ingnore the rules...

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The universal web language is: HTML.
CSS helps HTML look better and you can't write a web page with it.
XML organizes stuff for HTML.
Javascript is part of HTML.
Java takes the form of an applet, which is part of HTML.
Same with Flash.
PHP and ASP create HTML.

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Quote: "you can't write a web page with it"

Ah see you are wrong:


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Quote: "Ah see you are wrong"


x_x he didn't say you can't write a page *without* it.. he said you can't write a page with *only* css


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