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Geek Culture / Finally... on XP :)

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Lampton Worm
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 08:25
Well, I did it. I finally upgraded to XP - and so far so good. Also got broadband being activated next week, so I'm nearly in the 21st century at last Hee hee. Now, back to re-installing just about everything under the sun..!

Cheers.
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 08:28
Welcome to 3 years ago.
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 08:34
why the hell did you install windows again?????!?!?!?!Linux pwns windows.that would bring you to yesterday. mac owns Linux and windows. that was last hour. 5 seconds ago windows pwned again.


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 08:52
Quote: "Also got broadband being activated next week"


Everytime I see that I get a tiny bit more angry and think to myself, why o why do I live in the middle of nowhere.

Oh, and welcome to XP, the simpletons version of an OS.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 09:11 Edited at: 7th Jan 2005 10:47
Youre both nuts. Windows XP is the greatest OS to date.

Don't go all "I HATE MICROSOFT BECAUSE IT IS THE SUCK", because Windows XP owns. It owns both Linux and Mac OS X combined! (whatever that means ).

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 09:21
i agree windows is by far the best os as it has alot more developers developing software for it. microsoft didnt become the the richest company in the world by making a second class os and it also isnt the most used os because its second class.

Any spelling mistakes are totally In tensional.
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 09:37
Using XP at work just reminds me of how much I like 2000Pro .


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 09:55
Quote: "Using XP at work just reminds me of how much I like 2000Pro "


Same OS, just a more colourful face and more compatibility for home users needs. Always wondered why people get so worked up about 2000 being so much better than XP, when technically speaking processing wise they're bloody identical.. (i mean fgs can't people figure this out from the fact they use the same damn drivers )

Quote: "Youre both nuts. Windows XP is the greatest OS to date.

Don't go all "I HATE MICROSOFT BECAUSE IT IS THE SUCK", because Windows XP owns. It owns both Linux and Mac OS X combined!"


MacOSX is the best Operating System on the market currently. If you don't believe this then, you've never used it; It is pretty much as simple as that.

Possibly the most ironic thing is.
MacOSX and Windows XP are both by Microsoft.. So either way, your using thier expertise. Hardcore Macintosh users prefer not to think about the fact that Microsoft not only outright own Apple, but also produce all of the software under the Apple name. It would mean that they'd have to admit that Microsoft are good at what they do.

What makes me laugh are the Linux users who praise OSX but boo at Windows. I mean FGS how sodding dense are these users!
They think that Microsoft having been aquasition Apple and putting Unix through R&D just for kicks? lmao! yeah, the day Microsoft wastes money will be the day that every home will have a little penguin logo on the front of thier DELL PC


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 10:06
agreed @ raven


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 10:42
Linux is fun, although I wouldn't want it on my main machine...

Anyways.... Errr... Yeah...



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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 10:46
lol xp=spam it just puts all this smootha nd creamy lookign junk in there just aksign for bugs to be made
and unless u got pro then it sux i downgraded to windows 2000 form xp home cause i hate not havign good contorl over the os and the people who use it win2k si just about the best version of windows yet in my opinion but hey thats me

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 10:50 Edited at: 6th Jan 2005 10:51
I switched/upgraded/whatever to XP around Xmas. I've used it before a good deal of course, and 2000 too, but never extensively for my own computer.

Good impressions:

-Startup time is fantastic compared to 98 and ME

-The task manager is, of course, vastly upgraded and generally like a task manger ought to be

-Generally more stable

-Games run faster

-Wizards, help, et cetera have gone from 'useless' to 'ocassionaly useful', which is honestly the best one can possibly expect

...and the bad ones...

-Compatibility mode is virtually useless

-GDI+, on twice as much RAM as I was running GDI (98) on and with an identical CPU, has a ridiculous amount of trailing and other visual artifacts. (Eager for Longhorn on this count)

-An incredibly frustrating 'freeze bug' I encountered on one other 2000 pro machine where the entire screen seems to freeze and can only be "restarted" by moving the (invisible) mouse down to the task bar or opening the control panel and waiting 10 to 50 seconds is also on this machine... with totally different hardware... it can't be that rare, and it's mind-numbingly frustrating.

-Notepad still isn't 3d

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 10:58
agreed on it all


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 11:03
hmmm notepad beign 3-d man i dotn think it will happen cause notepad is meant to be just a simple text editor
hey maybe thats an idea for oen of u make a 3-d ntoepad lol good luck

and i love how much software linux ocmes with i mean it has like how many games and utilites and servers of course they need to have a downlaod edition of it that just ahs the basics so it isnt a 2gb+ download

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 11:22
mac osx the operating system does not come from microsoft raven,

mac os x was created from the sale of the NExt Operating System, Beos fell short and came in 2nd. Guess who owned Next anyway!

OS X is a derivitave of Free BSD v1 but with Next Components.
Bsd is way older then microsoft and microsoft uses BSD networking components or did in one way, in its Operating systems.

Microsoft does have a software arm for apple products such as virtualpc and office.
Microsoft does not have major share control of apple software or hardware but has a vested interest in apple to hide itself from a monopoly, even tho consumers are rarely aware of other platforms and operating systems in the marketplace.
It happens the same way with apple as sometimes a pc trend forces apple to rethink there position. eg: compatability with hardware.

Microsoft and Apple both copied the GUI from fuji xerox so all companies pinch ideas from each other, Apple has a lot more firsts tho in the computer history, Microsoft's wave follows after and takes up trends in the pc world that apple create.

OSX is basically a unix variant with access to windows emulation in commercial software such as virtual pc, alternatively many mac people who go deeper into there mac are waiting for darwine to become stable [ an OSX port of wine from linux].

darwinports is another slightly obscure emulator but works well.
I got "Nmap" on my mac muhaha

OSX can access linux distribution packages with X11, it opens up the linux world for mac users, works especially best with BSD packages.

OSX can emulate a great deal of older computer and console platforms, as you can on other platforms.

OSX carries Mac Classic much more robustly then what XP does for compatability when it comes to 98se etc..

SInce OSX has been unleashed to the marketplace and the free developer community,coders for osx have risen 250%.

The developer tools are free on the last CD in OSX bundle package.

OSX/Apple does not frown on the open source free developer community like microsoft does.

There is an alternative for MSoffice and networking to pcs if required and both are free so productivity on my mac is no problem in a pc environment.

IBM however have a very large interest in what apples doing as apple are buying there power4 and power5 chips.

Nvidia and ATI are also testbedding new cards for the high end macs.

It makes no sense to me to choose the Windows platform for business unless you are capable of keeping a clean system from virii. The average Joe business operator needs to know how to do it, let alone put in the time, or have a good IT department who keeps atop all that nonsense code from wannabe self proclaimed hacker glory fanboys.

Btw: I saw a writeup about the first OSX virus!. 77999 to beat windows virii count

tiger is out soon grrr kitty snarl

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 11:27
Quote: " hmmm notepad beign 3-d man i dotn think it will happen cause notepad is meant to be just a simple text editor"


Yeah-- it was humor.

Nobody seems to understand my humor

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 11:38
you have humor?


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 12:08
Indi, visited Mactopia?
It's got some interesting reading up on it.

Tiger is already on the market though mate, or atleast it is here and the states. I got it as a free gift when I got a new 21" Widescreen TFT.. just a pitty it lacks the titles to make use of it. heh

Looking forward to the new PCI-Express models comming out, might be upgrading at the end of the year. As there should be a version of the G5 released similar in design to the next-generation consoles, not to mention the official PC/Mac release of the R520

Macintosh have definately been gaining moment the past few years, hopefully prices will start to drop. Still ridiculous money to buy them


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 13:11
@everyone

Windows doesnt suck...MICROSOFT and they way they run their buisness sucks. i have tried several differnt distros of linux, and as a C# programmer i prefer Windows as it actually supports what i do...but i believe one day the evil empire of MS will fall to Linux as it WILL, eventually, become the best, as it is growing....rapidly

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 13:23
There is rumour there will be a quad cpu g5 but I cant imagine where they would squeeze in the extra two cpus and fridgesinks into the machines cooling area setup.

Apparantly the current g5s are only doing 2/3 the actual speed they could do until the optimisations are better with cooling etc..



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mac sucks

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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 13:44
you suck. Macs rule.


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 14:48
heh, yeah well after seeing what the properly cooled 750FX was capable of doing I'm interested in seeing what the new G5's have in store.

this said, even with all that crap inside them, Mac aren't exactly as heavy as your standard PC. just hope IBM can sort out the processor quirks in the 900-Series that is currently being used.
They're ridiculous power hogs and overheat like Intel chips.

i think the reason for this though is their design isn't really setup to go as fast as Apple are pushing them. i'll need to find the section of IBMs site on the, but iirc the current G5 is being pushed almost 2x what the chip was designed to do.


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wow. I only have a g4.


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 16:35
Hi y'all.

Notepad 3-D lol

Anyway, I had to do a bit of faffing re-installing DBP plus the enhancements, initially its going ok, even though somehow the version in the IDE has gone back to 055 even though I have 057

Also I think my DBP progs run about 10fps slower, unless thats just screen fps() acting different on XP (heard something about that) BUT compilation seems a tiny bit quicker, and its nice when I hit escape to get 'instantly' back to the editor, 98SE took about 1/1.5 seconds each time to quit, for me at least. I think that might be that I have 768mb ram, and 98SE wasn't making full use of it, where as XP is.

Something else quick, I've got multiple users on the same machine, do I have to do anything special to ensure that if I install a program when logged in as me, that other users can't see those programs when they log in? I'm the overall admin. I just don't want to bog down other users start/programs with all my gaming tools

Cheers!
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 20:34
Quote: "technically speaking processing wise they're bloody identical"


Says who?

In terms of graphics drivers and software maybe - but XP does'nt give you the same level of control, I'm not going into details because it's lunchtime and I can't really be bothered - but trust me, I've reinstalled dozens of XP installations with 2000 and waved goodbye to so many crappy XP problems by doing that. My opinion is based on experience, nothing else.


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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 21:45 Edited at: 6th Jan 2005 21:45
Quote: "you suck. Macs rule."


Keep comments to yourself. We all have opinions, just because yours is a biased one doesn't mean we should all like the same things you do.

P.S: I'd prefer a PC over a MAC anytime.
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Posted: 6th Jan 2005 23:31
Quote: "Always wondered why people get so worked up about 2000"


O_o 2000 and XP are not identical

I'm running 2000 on a 233 with 64mb RAM... if I were to use XP on that machine, it would slow to a crawl..

With 2000, that thing is bookin'.. as I mentioned in some other post, I'm using it as a dev computer, it runs apache, php, mysql, a few explorer pages, notepad, and photoshop all at once... on that little tiny 10 year old computer...

2000 pro is teh pwnzorz


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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 01:06
linux sucks, the only people who enjoy linux are those who think it's cool to be anti-microsoft,(go skateboarding or something) and whats wrong with windows xp? My pc hasn't crahsed ONCE since i built it 6 months ago, ACCEPT FOR WHEN:
1) i overclocked 2mhz too far, but it recoevered fine.
2) i tried to install linux, it thinks my USB mouse is a PS2, and when i selected USB the whole thing just collapsed and the pc restarted, only to find my hard drive was dead. I'd lost the windows installation and everything else I had just installed on windows the day before, and linux was no-where to be found on the hdd, and the NTLDR was gone.

if you hate windows that much then use mac, its another alternative to windows, and i really love the macOS, it prooves just the same point of you hating windows, and you dont have to be a total sadact to have it.

"im respected amongst the internet communities because i try to destroy windows" <--- what a schoolmate actually said to me last night. i find it sad, why try to gain respect from those who you'll never meet in place of respect from your closest friends?

1 person using linux wont destroy microsoft, so give up now.

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Quote: "linux sucks, the only people who enjoy linux are those who think it's cool to be anti-microsoft"


I like linux and it works great for what I need to use it for, development. Each system has its own advantages/disadvantages.

Plus linux is free (at least some distros), and you cant argue with free.
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Quote: "why the hell did you install windows again?????!?!?!?!Linux pwns windows"


Which OS did you post from?

I find alot of people are all anti MS, pro Linux etc. but how many of them actually use Linux for day to day life*. I certainly find XP much easier to use.

In Linux you're expected to be a technological wizard to configure things and every utility seems to have a painfully geeky name

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Every OS wastes your time
From the desktop to the lap,
Everything since the abacus
Is just a bunch of crap!
From Microsoft to Macintosh
To Lin-Line-Lin-Line-ux
Every computer crashes
'Cause every OS sucks.



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That rhyme is quite good till the end... it needs improvement.


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I like it the way it is.
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*loves that song, but the internet help desk pwns*

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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 08:15 Edited at: 7th Jan 2005 08:16
Quote: " you suck. Macs rule."


You are nothing but a follower

XP seems to load faster for me, but Win2k is faster once I'm in the OS. What's wrong with liking more than one OS? I have 3 --- XP, 2k Pro, and Fedora 1... triple-booting. Nobody says you have to just like one of them.

Quote: "MacOSX is the best Operating System on the market currently. If you don't believe this then, you've never used it;"


Gotta love these over generalizations. I've used MacOSX extensively, and I still believe it's meant for the computer-illiterate AND/OR the artistic. This is why indi and Raven swear by it--- they're both artists. For everybody else a PC just can't be beat. Obviously there's a reason why the PC has what, a 90% market share??

EDIT: Just so you know, I'm not saying indi and Raven are computer illiterate


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"In Linux you're expected to be a technological wizard to configure things and every utility seems to have a painfully geeky name"

precisely my problem with it. you have to dip into the command-line shell to do half the stuff, learning an entirely new shell language if all you've ever used before is DOS and batch files. there seems to be about 5000 distros, all with different pros and cons, and nothing seems to be standardized. and because of all these different platforms, you can't just download a program - no, you have to download the source and COMPILE it. and then you again have to deal with the command line to compile the damn thing, and all these complicated shell scripts and other scripting languages like python and perl and..... hell, i'll take windows any day over that mess.

and remember -- there's nothing like "grep," "awk," "sed," "emacs," or "drakex" (NO JOKE) to solve your problems.

"when it's done" means "we have no idea, we forgot to do that; we were hoping you would all forget we promised <insert exotic promise here>"
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I used redhat 7.0 once, and I posted from a mac. I still HAVE to use windows for db=/. please make it linux compatible tgc.(or mac)


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Quote: "XP seems to load faster for me, but Win2k is faster once I'm in the OS."


Yeah, Windows 2003 boots even faster.. but when you inside it, runs slower unless you enable only the services you need.
This is simply because the services being used take up more processing power, and each incarnation of Windows need more RAM in order to run all of the services.

I currently have installed Windows Millennium Edition & Windows 2000 Professional on one hard disk, Windows XP Service Pack 2 on another hard disk and Windows 2003 Enterprise Server on the last Hard Disk. Those are on a Server machine that is constantly running Windows 2003 Enterprise Server.

Each of my systems has a network installation of all of the Operating Systems so basically I can choose the OS that suits what I need to do the most.

Millennium Edition is great for not only running ridiculously fast, but also checking backward Compatibility. It will also run alot of software aimed at Windows 9x that Windows NT 5.x won't.

2000 Professional isn't actually used, it's simply installed because I was curious to why everyone seems to prefer it to Windows XP. I've found that on a Standard Installation, 2000 runs alot quicker.. turn on Themes, Application Layer Gateway, and DHCP Services then they start to perform around the same speed.
What is even more interesting is if you have 512MB Ram in your machines (no more and no less), Windows XP / 2000 / 2003 almost identically and extremely fast.

I've discovered that if you add more than this, then until you hit 1GB it will actually cause the system to slow down. It is a pretty clear indication that Windows NT 5.x is designed to specifically to optimise when using 512MB multiples.

I think alot of people seem to forget that XP does actually run on the exact same Kernel, there is no difference in the background operations. The actual Operating System differences come from the service versions available to you.
You can literally take Windows XP DLL / SYS / OCX and put them with thier dependancies in Windows 2000 and they'll work on that Kernel exactly the same. It is the same OS, just the programs and services it uses are different. So this is why you edit them to use the same services and they'll sit there happily and work almost identically.

Windows XP is obviously used for the majority of stuff. It is to date Microsoft's most compatible, stable, and integrated OS there is. You can deny this all you want to, but quite simply put, when XP messes up it is because of hardware issues, issues that as I've told many in the past Linux ignores and continues to operate with causing more hardware damage (very pandemic really).
Unix, Irix, and Solaris are the same as Windows, they'll crash in order to protect and lengthen the life of your hardware... just because an Operating System chooses to continue functioning despite malfunctioning hardware doesn't make it more stable, just makes it more costly, or means you don't notice that errors are creeping into your programs because of these problems.
This is why on the rare occasions Linux does crash it generally takes out whatever hardware it is accessing at the time.

Windows 2003 is used well for as a Server mainly, but I thought it would also help me to use a .NET integrated OS. Unfortunately I was wrong because it is incompatible with one hell of alot of software not to mention doesn't like installing .NET 2.0 software. Considering that's what I prefer to use to developed with, left me up crap-creek without a paddle for a while. Was in the processes of backing up information in order to reinstall XP on my main system when it died earlier today

back to the joys of the good ol' Pentium2-266, god this thing has lasted well .. guess pure Intel & IBM hardware is a good combination


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@Lampton Worm
umm to have it just not show up in the start menu would be to go into
C:\documents and settings\all users\start menu\programs\ and from there just cut all the folders that are you gaming tools and put them in C:\documents and settings\YOUR USER NAME\start menu\programs\
and they will then onyl show up in your account
and replace C:\ with whatever drive windows is on

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Quote: "I currently have installed Windows Millennium Edition"




You of all people should know about the hazards of using ME with anything RAM intensive (PhotoShop, etc.). Run 'em once then reboot is all I can say


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Lol yeah, my parents have an old computer with Windows ME.... not a good combonation!

It crashes alot, but it's pretty much usable.

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Well, I finally got two new harddrives to re-install XP on.
And all my software...
...and games...

I've decided this time to use the Mozilla and Firebird, along with the Free office.

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Raven,
You can't possible put winME above 2000pro. Stop being silly . ME is the worst OS ever made. Frankly though I don't think you can compare XP to win2000pro - most new pc's that people are using are on XP Home, not Pro, I can see how XPpro and 2000pro might be very similar because the main component of Pro is the added administration tools and networking, but XP Home versus 2000Pro is no competition at all. 2000pro is the most stable and accesible OS I've ever used - when you just want your PC to behave and not take up all your time with stupid issues. My maintenance routine for PC at home is really just running spyware and virus protection - I've not even had a virus with 2000pro yet.

Frankly it's regarded as a server OS, no good for games, etc etc etc - when your #1 concearn on your PC is DBPro compile times, a good fast and clean OS is what's needed - for me XP does'nt provide that in the same way on my hardware.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 19:26
@ play2kill I'm stuck with dailup my self tho though soon http://www.vonage.com/,I use to have a mass beef againest xp tho I finly solved most of my problems tho with 98 - vs - xp xp wins, with 98 my computer use to crash 3 time a day, as to xp things every once and a while gets a little squirrelly but nothing major.
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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 19:39
Eh, for everyone bashing Linux... I'm not so sure you've actually installed it on your machine. If you get an easy Distro, like Redhat, Mandrake (probably the easiest), or SuSE (second easiest?), it's so easy to install software, detect hardware, and the like.

Of course, it is well known that Linux has less support from major companies and such. But it's stable, not to mention fun, and it's a good programmer's distro (at least what I have, SuSE. It gives you at least 20 different programming applications, beats me as to how many individual packages...).

Heh, my only problem with Linux is my wireless card isn't supported in SuSE 9 Pro (they changed this in 9.1... I was a few weeks too early!). This is going to change soon, because apparently, we use a different type of router that IS supported, and I am getting that router since we are getting a faster kind (I think my dad wanted to try that wireless Pre-N... sounds awesome).

Meh. My $.0000002


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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 21:31
Quote: "Eh, for everyone bashing Linux... I'm not so sure you've actually installed it on your machine. If you get an easy Distro, like Redhat, Mandrake (probably the easiest), or SuSE (second easiest?), it's so easy to install software, detect hardware, and the like."


Finally someone speaking sense

Mepis (based on Debian) is great for hardware detection and gives you a nice all round PC. I would recommend downloading a debian based distro cause you just cant beat it for ease of use.

Quote: "Of course, it is well known that Linux has less support from major companies and such. But it's stable, not to mention fun, and it's a good programmer's distro (at least what I have, SuSE. It gives you at least 20 different programming applications, beats me as to how many individual packages...).
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It is gaining support and you just have to look on sourceforge or google to find a Driver that was created by someone that uses linux.

Nothing beats a ./configure && make && make install its just geeky seeing text roll along the screen lol

Quote: "eh, my only problem with Linux is my wireless card isn't supported in SuSE 9 Pro (they changed this in 9.1... I was a few weeks too early!). This is going to change soon, because apparently, we use a different type of router that IS supported, and I am getting that router since we are getting a faster kind (I think my dad wanted to try that wireless Pre-N... sounds awesome)."


Well if it isnt a Prisim based card you should look up a program called Ndiswrapper which will take the dll from windows and run the card in linux this means you wont be able to do much warwalking with kismet but its works great and simplymepis comes with it pre-installed as do some other distros.


I love linux and i aint a anti-m$ person (i am using xp right now) One REALLY annoying thing about xp pro is when i have protected game cds (as most are) like battlefield i have the CD in and goto play the game and it tells me to insert the cd.... this only ever happens in XP. and its very very very annoying seen as i cant play any games (like americas 10 most wanted) its sucks

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Posted: 7th Jan 2005 23:23
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Posted: 8th Jan 2005 00:27
Indeed - use a blunt pencil...

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