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Can you?

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damn..... but thank you very much

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The point of using DLLs in DarkBasic, is to give the language extra functionality - so being able to make DLLs in DarkBasic would be a bit pointless.

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No, not really. You could try to use DBP functions in other programs. If you could make DLLs with DBP, you could write your own Dark SDK.

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Quote: "If you could make DLLs with DBP, you could write your own Dark SDK."
That is the main reason it will never be attempted. If DBP gets too powerful you could even make DBP and they wouldn't want that either.

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But since you can't in DBP, and Dark SDK doesn't allow it just so you don't write another DBP. TGC is trying to prevent you from writing your own Dark SDK or Dark Basic Professional, because if you did they'd be out of the job.


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You can distribute your program made in DBP.
Your program made in DBP contains DBP DLLs.
So you can distribute DBP DLLs.

Just use a language that supports DLL calls, with a little effort you can use DBP commands, or maybe create your own game creation tool.
I'm not sure TGC would like that.

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I don't think they would like it, but I can't find anything saying you can't do it. It would be good if someone clarified the subject. *hint hint*

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The reason why DarkBASIC doesn't make DLLs is probably because Lee hasn't seen the need yet, or hasn't had the time, than because of license issues.


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Quote: " Lee hasn't seen the need yet,"

which is reasonable, as DBP was meant for games, not DLLs.

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But dll's would be a useful way to separate parts of a program. And inevitable reduce the size of the executable file.


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not really. Each DLL has it's headers, so splitting up your program would actually take up more space than putting it all in one EXE. If you could make static libraries on the other hand, you would be able to reduce compile times if your programs are too big.
There's nothing about the CODE that makes executables big. What takes up most of the space is the plugins, and maybe the VM.

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I think DBP would be much better if the plugins were extracted to memory and not to the TEMP dir...

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Why? What would be the difference?


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i was going to use it to add extra commands to darkbasic so a user could just type

call dll disable system keys and it would change registry entries and do complicated stuff

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I can disable ctrl alt delete windows key and alt dab Ask me for dll and code 5 lines of code and dll
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Speed, security, anti-piracy (for 3rd party plugins), no trash left in the TEMP folder, programs could run on a read-only system...

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ive started a debate

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Quote: " I think DBP would be much better if the plugins were extracted to memory and not to the TEMP dir..."


snag is i don't think it is easy to create a pe header in a memory space (pe header -> header of dll)

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It's not easy, but possible. Sorry about getting out of the topic. I've started a thread on this subject already:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=39934&b=18

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what would happen if we tried to make an fps creator?
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If you went against the EULA then TGC can take legal action and you may loose your rights to use any of their software.


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