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3 Dimensional Chat / What's you fave modeller?

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Fallout
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 00:20
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I've been trying to model a landscape for my WW2 flight sim I'm working on. The maps will be moderately small for unrealistic low level flying (ala battlefield 1942, but landscapes will be bigger and less detailed). I bought 3D Canvas a while back but it's just really slow, fiddly and I find it very non user-friendly (the exported files also don't work with Gile[s] which I use for lightmapping). I'm also playing about with 1.6.6 of Milkshape, which is nice, but it lacks the ability to use numerical values to set sizes and position vertices. I also really need a build in UV mapper. The 3D Canvas one is poor, so I'm using unwrap 3d (the old free version), but it'd be nice to have one environment for all of this.

I don't want to go the GameSpace route and pay an arm and a leg so any suggestions. How does the newest version of milkshape shape up?

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JeroenNL
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[shameless advert]I'm almost afraid to mention DeleD (i've been mentioning it a number of times this week already on these forums ) but it might just suit your needs. It's lowpoly 3D modeller with lightmapping abilities and exports to .X[/shameless advert]

Use the free 3D modeller DeleD to get skilled in 3d editing! Visit http://www.delgine.com for more info.
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Fallout
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 01:09
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I think I downloaded that a while back and had a quick look. How did the UV mapping shape up?

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JeroenNL
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Well, DeleD is mainly used for level-editing and its UV functions are suitable for that purpose. Don't know which version you tried before, but right now DeleD can move/scale/flip/cylce UV coords. If you are into UV mapping more complex things like characters, DeleD might not be enough right now. We are going to build more UV functions, like manipulation of individual UV coordinates. Will be a while though. Anyway, latest version is 0.914.

Use the free 3D modeller DeleD to get skilled in 3d editing! Visit http://www.delgine.com for more info.
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Fallout
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I think the version I tried was about 6 months ago when it was first being hyped up. I think the lightmapping was just "on the cards" at that point. I think I'll have another look then. What file types does it export btw?

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walaber
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 14:11
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Blender is free, and doesn everything your asking... have a look at the new video tutorials so the interface doesn't scare you off... it's become my modeller of choice lately

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JeroenNL
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DeleD supports exporting to X and B3D and importing OBJ, 3DS and B3D. DBO is planned also. Anyway, check www.delgine.com for more info.

Use the free 3D modeller DeleD to get skilled in 3d editing! Visit http://www.delgine.com for more info.
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artofwot
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 19:46
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Quote: "Blender is free, and doesn everything your asking... have a look at the new video tutorials so the interface doesn't scare you off... it's become my modeller of choice lately "


I second the recommendation for Blender. You can find more information at www.blender3d.com.

It's really a solid program and it also has lots of features.
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greenlig
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 20:58
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i totally third the recommendation of blender. I have never used something so small and powerful. It really is a delight to use, and it can do anything from lowpoly to highpoly film stuff - Its great.

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Peter H
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Posted: 24th Jan 2005 23:55
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Quote: "which is nice, but it lacks the ability to use numerical values to set sizes and position vertices"

you can position a vertice by selecting it then going into Vertex>>Manual Edit (or Ctrl+Shift+E)
make sure you check the "show only selected" box

and if(trust me it's hard) you can get used to blender's UI, then i'd say go for it

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Guyon
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 00:13 Edited at: 25th Jan 2005 12:12
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I looked at Blender a while ago, and it just looked hard to use. Well maybe the interface was not friendly enough for me to put the time into it.

Milkshape is a great modeler for the price.
Nothing can come close to Animation Master can for doing organics for it's price, and maybe even rival the high end packages. I have used it to make terrain for a corporate project.

I have used 3ds Max daily for years.

I may be switching to Cinema 4D. Version 9 is really impressive. The modeler beats 3ds Max, and it's Texture painting is astounding.

I have never even heard of DeleD but it looks like a nice package. Being free I may DL it to test it out.
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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 01:38
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Q: What's you fave modeller?
A: Maya

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IanG
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 01:54
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3ds max - got to be

Used to be Phoenix_insane registered in september 2003 despite what the date says to the left <--
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Fallout
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 05:56
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The UV mapping is by far the most important thing for me, so I'll check out DeleD again and see how it goes. Maya and 3DS max are both to complex for me for the simple task of low poly modelling and have too much overhead because of their complexity.

Current thoughts are Milkshape with Ultimate Unwrap 3D, but I'll give DeleD a go before I part with my cash.

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JeroenNL
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 06:27 Edited at: 25th Jan 2005 06:28
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Ok, cool. Just remember that DeleD is mainly suitable for level-creation. If you want to UV-map characters (or other types of more complex 3D models), DeleD might not suit your needs (don't want expectations to be too high, just being honoust about what DeleD can and cannot do right now ). Anyway, cu around the Delgine site then!

Use the free 3D modeller DeleD to get skilled in 3d editing! Visit http://www.delgine.com for more info.
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