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DLL Talk / what dll controls the drawing of 3D?

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jasonhtml
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what dll controls the drawing of 3D? and are we able to call these commands and use them to draw 3D of our own using DBP?

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Posted: 27th Jan 2005 06:37
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Quote: " what dll controls the drawing of 3D?"

There are various dlls that do 3D. For example, the debugtext.dll (or something like that) takes care of text and CAMERA commands.

and are we able to call these commands and use them to draw 3D of our own using DBP?
I have no idea what you're trying to ask here.

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Open the dll's with Resource Hacker. This will allow you to view the dll's string table which has a list of the commands taht are in the dll.

Google: Resource Hacker


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ok.. ill try resource hacker

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um... resource hacker only shows u the string tables... are there programs that can read the whole dll?

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If you mean like seeing code for the dll, then I would say that you have no chance. I am sure that TGC has their dll's encrypted so that you can't do that.


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*grumbles* i want to be able to draw 3D models in dbp...

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Quote: " *grumbles* i want to be able to draw 3D models in dbp..."

I don't think you need to hack the DLLs to do that. DmitryK has a plugin that allows vertex manipulation, so try that out.

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P.S. We really need an abbreviation of "manipulation".

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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 20:14 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 20:14
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@mr underhill - manip. maybe

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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 23:04 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 23:05
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vm can be vertex manipulation maybe...

also, i dont want to do vm, i want to create and delete vertices, lines, planes, ect.

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vm could get mixed up with virtual machine

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Posted: 31st Jan 2005 05:13 Edited at: 31st Jan 2005 05:14
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DBPro3DDebug.dll is the 3D engine module.

Quote: "If you mean like seeing code for the dll, then I would say that you have no chance. I am sure that TGC has their dll's encrypted so that you can't do that."


There is no need to encrypt it, since the code is compiled. If you want to view the machine code instructions then that is quite easy - but they won't mean much to anyone.


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Posted: 31st Jan 2005 09:38
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how do i view it in C++? ive tryed looking at it in Borland C++ Builder Personal Ed. but that didnt work... just all a bunch of gibberish...

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You don't. You can't get the original source code from the DLL

Learn to use memblocks, then meshes in memblocks, and then extend that to object manipulation.

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Quote: " just all a bunch of gibberish..."


That 'gibberish' is the compiled source code amongst other things. You're not going to find any nice human-readable source code in the DLL.


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o well... *goes and starts to read up on memblocks*

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