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AlexI
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how do you make a playstation 2 game?????????????

all iknow is there is something called "ps2yabasic" that means plays station 2 yet anorther basic.
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Somehow manage to get your hands on The PS2 C++ Library and learn C++


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It costs a lot of money and you need a license to sell them. It would be better to make games for PC or Mobile Phone, which TGC products can

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what is that
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that is what I was gonna ask!

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Quote: "what is that "


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if you're just starting programming, don't go after a ps2 game. you'll most likely get frustrated and give up, which will lower your self-confidence and you won't fell like programming anymore. has happened to a lot of people trust me. my advice: learn C++, write a few small things, gradually going larger, until you can work with external libraries, then look into ps2 specific programming (google). i also recommend the ps2 linux kit, which is like 200 bucks, but legal. gamedev.com has an article about basic graphics programming for the ps2 linux kit. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1967.asp (part one)
and http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article2027.asp (part two).
don't get discouraged though. it's still very possible, just very hard for a new (budding) programmer.

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hmmm i dont understand why it would be illegal if you just made a game for you yourself to use and not sell.

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but if you're using tools or sdks that you aren't allowed to use (for example, the xdk) unless you have bought a liscense, then making a game, even though you made it, is illegal because you used other people's software and stuff without their permission.

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well if you asked them...nicely

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check out this site for ps2 Programing.
http://www.internalreality.com/

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hmmm looks very hard. does anyone know what an elf file is ??
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Its the PS2 development system. See http://www.scee.sony.co.uk/sceesite/ps2linux.html

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An elf file is like an EXE but for linux.
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doesn't the dreamcast run windows ce or something

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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 04:03 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 04:07
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LOL, I was making PS2 games before I moved onto DB (well, a blue triangle that you could move left and right, was going to be space invaders until DB found me)

Quote: "all iknow is there is something called "ps2yabasic" that means plays station 2 yet anorther basic. "


There is such a program, it's called YABASIC and does indeed stand for yet another basic. If you've got a PS2 you should have received a free demo disc with it.

On there is a program called YABASIC. Look on the net and you'll find plenty of places to find help on using it. You can save your games onto your memory card and show them to other people. Trust me though, you'll be a lot happier if you use DB and make PC games, it won't be that long before there's a PS3 out so I doubt you'll have enough time to really get to grips with any kind of PS2 game making before most people have moved on.





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thanks everyone
on a ps2 game i found
an:
elf file
mus file
pss file
mxi file
viv file
ssd file
mxi file
sbf file

1)does any one know what any of theses file do

2)where can you buy ps2 game discs from

3)what programs can you use

4)do you know any commands

5)thanks in advanced
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As I say in my signature - Questions are a burden to others...
I suggest you start to use Google...

To start you off however, visit http://ps2dev.org/

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number 5, all they are is just some DVD's

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Nah PS2 DVDs are specially formatted. Look in your PS2 manual. It says 'PS2 Format DVD' Or something along those lines


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i have to go. annoying sister kick me off.stupid old msn.
here is a link ro stuff about yabasic http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=yabasic&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
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@ saber dude

you can buy regular DVD's and when you put the files onto the DVD you need a special program to formatt then burn it

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Quote: "does anyone know what an elf file is"


Actually an ELF file is, from what I've seen, the way you run a PS2 game on a PS2 or a PS2 dev kit. It doesn't have anything to do with Linux :p A PS2 dev kit is just a large PS2 with extra power, two network cards, more RAM, and it says DEV on the side. Pretty cool looking if you ask me


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If you have a dvd drive and some newish ps2 games (i used a james bond game). put it into the dvd drive.go to exporeer and see what files it has on it. then if you know what the files are can you tell me.

can any one send me script for a ps2 game wich can be opened in a free program and can be transfered to ps2.I have got yabasic on pc.

what program do use to format game discs?
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how do you open ".elf" files without linux
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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 22:04 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 22:04
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.elf files are nothing, there trash that the dev kit leave's behind from compiling your data.
At least that's how it is with .gba rom's you need, c/c++ compiler gba dev kit (there are free ones), after code what you want, you make a dos batch file, that will compile the headers and source files with the dev kit, and leaves a .elf and various other file's depending on what your doing, and a .gba the other file's are trash left over from compiling and the .gba will work in a emulator or gba with a flash card. I would think ps2 game's would be pretty much the same.

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I have a question,

Does anyone know how to put a dark basic game onto xbox?

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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 22:14 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 22:27
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no. but i could guess how to.
1. tell me what kind of disc they are ie cd dvd
2. ill tell you that when you answered 1

make thread about xbox game
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Quote: " .elf files are nothing, there trash that the dev kit leave's behind from compiling your data.
At least that's how it is with .gba rom's you need"


I just told you what ELF files are, and they're not trash.

Quote: "can any one send me script for a ps2 game wich can be opened in a free program and can be transfered to ps2.I have got yabasic on pc.

what program do use to format game discs?"


Do a search on Google. There are no "scripts" or teh "codez" you can use to magically make a game that will run on PS2, okay? You need a professional dev kit, just like I said, and only game companies have access to them.

Quote: "make thread about xbox game"


No, don't! There have been dozens of threads started on how to use DBP on Xbox (you can't), so just do a thread search!


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Sigh... I know a bit about console bedroom coding, since I spent about a year of Internet Time searching on Google for a BASIC-syntax language for consoles...

With the XBOX, there is no such thing as DLL files (Dynamically Linked Files) - like with DBC or DBPro, any 'external' pieces of code will be compiled into the main program. Well, there is one exception. Xboxkrnl.exe. But what do you expect??

Moving from Visual C++ 6 (and .NET, obviously) is quite easy - if you could get your hands on an officially licensed XBox development kit, as mentioned above....

How about running Linux on yer XBox? Will that do you?
http://sf.net/projects/xbox-linux/

Or how about da big bomb, the OpenXDK?
http://www.OpenXDK.org/
(Note: You will need to get your hands on Cygwin + GCC (Gnu Compiler Collection), as the OpenXDK is essentially just a library that you tell GCC to work with. If anybody wants me to, I'll dig up the similar link (OpenGClib) for the GameCube..)

Nothing wrong with Cygwin, it's completely free, just a bit hard on the modem, that's all.. (100's of megz's).

XBox emulator (dunno if it's good, just quickly searched SourceForge. Looks decent). http://cxbx.sf.net

Now, considering that I'm not interested in the XBox that much, (GC is my scene), I think that's a not-too-bad collection of links there. If you want to know about the GameCube, I could fill about 3x as much space sooo...

Oh yeah, and you need to know C++. I'm currently working (okay, okay, PLANNING) a project that allows you to do just one set of code, and have it work for the N64, the PSX, & the PC. In a BASIC-syntax language (I'm going to base the code around Assembler rather than C).

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'ELF files' - yeah, it is stupid trash. I mean, who wants to play the game you just made using the PS2 official development kit? Me, I'm in it for the progress bar...

Oh yeah, and just realised the link I missed..
It's an ultimate collection of a dude going by, commenting on homebrew stuff for the XBox, the PS2 and the PSX. I only just realised that 'GC' isn't anywhere in there. Damn.

http://www.BugInTheMachine.com - after the 'explanation', click on the middle entry 'BugInTheMachine', then click the UK flag to switch the language to English. It rules, period.

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Quote: "I just told you what ELF files are, and they're not trash."


If you would have read what i typed i said for the .gba not ps2 as i have not written anything for a ps2 i though they may have been simular in there compiling methods. GBA compiles out binary to .elf, then recompiles to a final binary from .elf to .gba you only need the .gba and you can throw away the .elf after you compile as it does nothing. Again i was not refering to ps2 as i haven't written anything for that only gba.

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i have started learning c++. it borring hard and not fun. but owell.


i have a question if i make a game on the computer and i know it works on a ps2. how can transfer it from pc to ps2?????? ??? ???
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you burn it to a dvd

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what do yuo format it with software
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Try this page:

http://www.buginthemachine.com/eProgPS2.php

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i think you can format the discs with theses programs
http://www.snsys.com/PlayStation2/dvdemu.htm
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Unless you've got a modded PS2, you *CANNOT PLAY THEM*. Unless you happen to own an official DVD+/- RW with the ability to create erronous sectors. And no, you don't.

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I THINK I HAVE GIVEN UP :')

unless any one knows everything you need to make a ps2 game

programming tool
burning tool
special discs
any hardware or software you need
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Hint: Try Google.

Quote: "If you would have read what i typed i said for the .gba not ps2 as i have not written anything for a ps2"


I did read what you typed. ".elf files are nothing, there trash that the dev kit leave's behind from compiling your data." Even if you're referring to GBA games (which I'm not sure why, as this thread isn't about the GBA), it would still confuse people into thinking ELF files are trash on the PS2.


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has any one got any good c++ programs
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c++ programs for what? a text editor? a game? an operating system? try to be more specific, spazuh.

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has any one got any source code for any programs written in c++ that do something intresting. and can be opened in DEV C++ on microsoft opetating system.

is that good enough
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but what kind of program?

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what do you mean
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like, what are you trying to learn about and need source code for? there are literally trillions of lines of free code out there; are we talking really simple stuff, directx, or win32? you know, things like that. you can't learn how to make a C++ game if i give you code for a text editor, ya know? i also reccommend tutorials and books, instead of just source code (don't get me wrong, source is a good way to learn how to do stuff, but it won't teach you much without additional supplements.)

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Quote: "official DVD+/- RW with the ability to create erronous sectors"


whats that?

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There's a lot more support for programming on the Dreamcast. I looked into it several years ago, and I didn't like the code structure of it one bit!

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I don't know about PS2 but I had a XBox Development machine Microsoft "Loaned me" to test out their XBox.

After I think it was 90 days, they asked if I wanted to keep the machine and develop games, and if so, fork over 16k.

I gave the machine back.

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