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stupid kid
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 03:06
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i changed my keyboard from qwerty to dvorak
now it takes forever to type anything

has anyone else here tried dvorak and did it let u type faster
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Ian T
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 03:36
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Well you have to learn it first

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stupid kid
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i have been trying to learn it for about 3 days but i dont know if it is worth it to still try to learn it or if i should go back to qwerty so i wanted to know if any one uses it and if it really improved their typing speeds.
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Teh Go0rfmeister
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*preffers the french keyboard*

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Neofish
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 05:42
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Quote: "*preffers the french keyboard*"



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David T
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 06:12
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Quote: "*preffers the french keyboard*"


I once tried to log into these forums at Charles de Gaulle - could never find the @ key. Had to give up

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Mr Pointless
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Eh? Why would the @ key be missing?

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Jeku
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 06:50
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Apparently the dvorak keyboard is easier to use when you know it--- you can type faster than using the QWERTY keyboard.


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David T
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 08:27
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It was above one of the number keys, yet I couldn't find the key to activate it. Presing shift gave you another symbol. I later found out you had to press Alt Gr.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 08:30
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apparently your speed will be equal to the qwerty board after about a month.

Don't expect high speeds in a week

After that month, you'll continue to go faster and faster, whereas on the qwerty, as most of ya know, your speed doesn't increase much more after a while


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stupid kid
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 08:57
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I switched back to qwerty about an hour ago. I know i can type faster if i practice enough using the dvorak keyboard but when typing something important like homework for school or anything, it is just takes too long to type anything. Maybe i will try dvorak again during the summer when i dont have school so i dont have to worry about typing anything important. And during the summer i will have more time to try to learn how to type on the dvorak keyboard better too.
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bitJericho
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uhh..just use dvorak when you don't have to learn large papers...

no one says you have to keep to dvorak and not switch back and forth


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Ian T
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 13:39
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no one says you have to keep to dvorak and not switch back and forth"


Actually, it doesn't make much sense to use two keyboards at once. Typing fast is subconcious and you can't really learn or, I believe, even effectively use one once you've learned the other. I know someone who switched to Dvorak and was quite fast typing on it, but was slow as crap with Qwertys after that.

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Rye
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 13:47
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wish someone would invent some kind of mobile phone keyboard. can type really fast with predictive text on, also leaves one hand free for something else.
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Phaelax
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i hate those cell phone things. always puts the wrong word.
I can do 60 wpm with perfect accuracy, and thats good enough for me.

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Dazzag
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 21:01
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Qwerty might not be optimal, but become a master on dvorak now, and when everyone else has had years of using qwerty, you go for a job, and you look like a 2 day old novice. Especially if you have to do an entry test on a computer. Nice. Where is the "O" key again? Someone I employed actually asked me that once. He had a computer science degree for f**ks sake....

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 21:54
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Lets see a screenshot of the Dvorak keyboard...

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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 21:59
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Quote: "screenshot"

O_o

a photo surely

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stupid kid
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Posted: 6th Feb 2005 22:15
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to see a photo of the dvorak keyboard go to images.google.com and search dvorak keyboard. And its the same keyboard, I just popped the keys out and rearranged them to the dvorak layout and in control panel i set it so windows recognizes it as a dvorak keyboard and not a qwerty keyboard.
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Mr Pointless
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 02:18
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That sounds time-consuming.

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ReD_eYe
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 02:39
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Whys it called dvorak? I can understand "qwerty" because all those letters line up. But on a dvorak keyboard, the d and the v are miles apart.
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Mr Pointless
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 02:50 Edited at: 7th Feb 2005 02:50
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It's named after Professor August Dvorak, who came up with the layout in the 1930s, if www.atarimagazines.com is to be beleived.

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Killswitch
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Why, supposidly, will you continue to get faster using a dvorak keyboard? Once you learn the keybaord you've learnt it, right? Just like qwerty?

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stupid kid
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 04:56
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A long time ago when people used type writers, qwerty was designed so that the typewriters don't jam. And because people was so used to using a qwerty keyboard on there typewriters thats what people used when they started using computers.

qwerty was designed so type writers wont jam and dvorak was designed to allow u to type faster and more accurate.

You can type faster on a dvorak because all the vowels and letter u use most often are all on the middle row so your fingers don't have to travel as far to type most common words.
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soapyfish
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 08:08 Edited at: 7th Feb 2005 08:08
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You know typewriter is the longest word you can type using just the top row of letter keys on a qwerty keyboard.





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Neofish
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 08:23
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wrong! qwertyuiop is

and now:
Quote: "C hgoy ypc.e rgy Ekrpat t.fxrape nafrgy urp ugb xgy mroy ru mf t.fo yfl. yd. ,prbi ydcbio br, S|"

I just tried out Dvorak keyboard layout for fun but most of my keys type the wrong things now

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hyrichter
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 08:42
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Actually, I'm seriously considering switching over to Dvorak. You also get the added security benefit that anyone else who tries to use your computer will be completely confused. I read that the reason "typewriter" is all on the top row is so that the typewriter salesmen wouldn't have to hunt and peck.


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Neofish
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 09:32
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typimg with a new board is hard

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I wand that dvorak keyboard! if you know how to type with it, you should see ~300% speed increase.
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