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Mike Inel
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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 16:43 Edited at: 7th Feb 2005 16:46
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I was trying to practice for the opening video for my game, would anyone think I had improvements after 3 months? Many people says that I need more improvements... (check "view" tab below)

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Posted: 7th Feb 2005 17:38
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I must say its quite a improvement.. mostly in materials though.
its a nicer render, better lighting and textures. The hair is falling more naturally as well as the cloth.

I like the electronic arm on the new one.. its quite a lot more detailed and render a lot better. The bump mapping on the sholder area of that same arm might be too deep and reflect too much light.

I liker her top less actually on the new one but somehow that was the best feature of the old.

Overall a nice improvment.. I dont know much about modeling, texturing or rendiering yet myself.. so I dont really have the experiance to start commenting on you.. though I did so anyway.

Good work!
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For Some reason i love the hair.....(I'm no good at making hair) I'm not very good at making characters either . What did u render/Make it in???? ITS ACE btw!!!!!!!!!!!

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That is incredible!
Well, I think so, but I can't model!

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Very nice, I like the um nipples LOL!

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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 12:34
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*picks his jaw up from off the floor*
whoo! very nice! what did you use to render that?
*jaw falls to the ground again*

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Man they both are very hot... what program are you using? IT'S AWESOME! I love the relisticism

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I used 3dsmax 6.0 to everything in modeling, lighting, rendering... In image enhancement/modifications, I used Adobe Photoshop CS. Maybe I should start modeling another female character, since my job's almost done... (thanks for the comments anyway, but I'm still no match to 3dtotal.com's forum)

Final result of my 5th human model!!! (see view again)

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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 20:39
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*she's hot*

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@celsius zero - are you admitting to liking a group of polygons, you need to get out more

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haha...sure... for a model she is hot...you have to admit that atleast. Yes i do get out...

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Besides, there are loads of people who would admit to liking Lara Croft and shes a low poly character! That is an incredible model!

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indeed

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Quote: "Besides, there are loads of people who would admit to liking Lara Croft and shes a low poly character"


Very true. She and Mach's character are HUGE improvements over Daisy Duck, which is all we had when I was young.

Seriously though, Mach, those are awesome. I like the softer skin tones in your newer version of the girl, and the material in her clothing really does give a more realistic look. Great work...
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Question is, would you date a girl with a robot arm? look at it. It's huge and dangerous looking!

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@Coder_David: I'm not sure, but I think it's about more than 10,000. I'll look at my 3d model when I came back home.

@Celsius Zero: I'm not used with the term "hot" but I do like the girl I modelled, that's why I modelled her. (heheh)

@Los: No, I'm NOT gonna date a girl with a metallic arm lol. It's just my art.

I'll also try to modify her, because her hair isn't realistic enough... and her dress isn't complete...

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haha...if she didn't like the flowers you sent her...she could club you with that metal arm!

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Celsius Zero - SHE ISN'T REAL!!! You are taking this far too seriously!

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dude... i am playing around... that's why they made the word "SARCASM".

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Ouch... I wouldn't mind dating her then... I'd rather date a geeky girl... (with freckles, eyeglasses and braces) lol

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That is ONE wicked model. how did u learn to model like that.

i also use 3d max from time to time but version 5 only. did u do it via NURBS, NURMS, or Splines?

i made a dragon using splines and it came out at about 100k+ pollies and by looking at your - awe inspiring, top of the class - model, u shouldn't be far off.

oh and another thing

don't supose u could give me a few tips *Nudge Nudge*

p.s. kind of reminds me of Final Fantasy 8...

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Quote: "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit."

Have you ever noticed that the only people who say that are the ones who can't use it?

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@Coder_David: I checked out, my model has 125,000+ polys...

@DLS: I use "edit mesh" then meshsmooth. But the arm has no meshsmooth. I'm kinda not used to model with "edit poly" but maybe I'll try since it has more functions than "edit mesh".
Tips? well... I usually go to the forums of 3dtotal and drool all over the monitor (heheh) but that's how I observe how the modellers do their works (really). Always have basis (set viewport background) and copy the proportions of the body, if you're not contented then modify the model a little. I used Kwon Boa's face for the face of my model and edited it a little (although I have no side view basis for it). The basis for the body was taken from http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=16. Just practice, then soon enough you don't know that you're improving. (I wish I could improve more...)

@Anyone: The comparison of the metallic arm. (see view tab again)

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Mach, you are truly doing outstanding work. It seems to me that your poly count is very high, but then the quality of your work is very high, and so I guess that the two balance out.

Thank you for sharing your work with us, but most of all thank you for posting about [3dtotal.com]. I just had a look at it and it has an awesome number of outstanding tutorials. Just what I have been looking for!

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mach are u interested in working on another side project? or are u occupied with the one your on?

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*Ties jaw to head just to say* DAMN!!... Very nice work!

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@koolaid 2764: Sorry... But I'm busy with my 2 projects and JOB(hell man...)

Some of the peeps are very expressive on telling something about my work... I appreciate those...

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Hi... I'm back... I was working on another model (which isn't human) and planning to make a short video of it with the girl I made earlier. Here's a screenshot (see view)

Although it's not yet finished, because it lacks details. (compared to armored core nexus)

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Another screenshot, although it's the head, with texture (which isn't finished yet). (see view)

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Some what halife 2 ish on the last two...

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Beautiful!

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Absolutly stunning work man!
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Another update... (see view)

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Some really fantastic stuff there, reminds me a bit of AppleSeed

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any more?

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absolutely stunning models, especially the hair and cloth on the girl are very realistic, i'd expect the render time to be a few days to get renders like that though lol (seriously, how long does it take to render one of those pictures?)

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@mm0zct: It's already written... 3 hours, 13 mins.

The texturing of the mech is almost done. legs, back and lower arms are the remainings

Another pic... the duel look of the 2. Although the setting is wrong... it's temporary.


And a small screenshot showing the upper body almost finished.


And a comparison of dark and light setting (the same as the pic above)


I need to decide whether the setting of the video is dark, light, or inside the hallway. The hallway is already planned but I think it's not a good setting, so I still need to decide... Please help me out, Whether dark, light, or hallway.


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Pretty!

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sorry i was so busy gawping at the pictures i missed have missed wherever you posted it.
new renders look awsome btw

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@mm0zct: Wait... I take back what I said earlier... that's 3 mins 13 sec. sorry.....

I've finally finished the whole model!!! (big sigh) here's another pic.


I'll be continuing the modelling in the girl's modification, weapons of the mechs, animations (IK stuffs), etc.

Although... Any help? just to decide whether the setting is dark, light, or hallway???


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Breathless...
Models are extremely Beautiful.........

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i dont really like the girl sorry, its just my opininion, but that MECH IS TOTALLY KICKASS UBEER L33T MEGA COOL, man that mech is cooler then evangeliuon ones, its a mixture of eve and transformers (this sentence was dumb), i dont know, but i fell its the coolest mech ive ever seen ! its great !

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the girl model is pretty cool too....but...theres something i dont like, i think her eyes should be green, her metallic arm is too rough, should be more like the mech arms texture/mesh, and her eyebrowns dont know but i think they should be darker,thiner, longer and more definide, this isjust my opinion, if you dont like it its not my problem, sometimes in these forums we cant post bad critics withouth being flamed, hope u dont get me wrong,

regarding the question on lcoatio, bright seams cooler to me, cheers, great work!

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@mustrix:
Bright you say??? hmm..... I'll think of a good setting for that... Maybe it's good to have a bright setting to see the details of the mech more.
About the girl, I still have to modify it like I said earlier because at first, I thought it's good already, but when I look at it again after 2 weeks, the eye's are too far away to each other and looks like a tiger's eyes when viewed on semi-top, the eyelashes aren't emphasised enough, the hair looks dumb, and on top of that, SHE GOT NO EARS!!!! AAAGH!!! I still have to model that dumb ears because I'm not satisfied with her hairstyle. (I want it to look like FFX rikku's...) And the metal arm's texture aren't concentrated (I just used UVMap>Cylinder) So I have to re-texture the metal arms. The eyebrows... I'll think about it. Thanks for the comments anyway...

I've posted in 3dtotal forum too, http://www.threedy.com/site/forum/showthread.php?threadid=28486&goto=newpost
Check it out if you want...

And I might be delayed to my modelling process because our com ain't working properly...



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I'm back again... I'm working on the girl. (not the mech) I've attached an image, but still not a final image (beta in short), cuz I think she's kinda different now, any comments?

Please comment before I continue.


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too wonky on the arms, she looks like richards from the fantastic four, give some more definition in the limbs. the mech si totally awesome, an dso was the original girl with robot arm, i thought it was spectacular.

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I would say that Wiggett is correct about the arms--there should not be a gentle curve at the interior part of an arm bend, at least not from that visual angle. Aside from that, to me and from what I can see from this pose, everything looks correctly proportioned.

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She needs at least somewhat of an hourglass figure. From that angle she appears to cut a straight line from her armpit to her thighs. The mesh around her elbows and knees doesn't seem to animate too well. It looks like they're made of spaghetti. Try cutting a few bevels in the outside of the joints so that they can expand and thus deform better. The hair is very good. What did you do it with?

All in all, excellent start though!

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I like dark better but that's just me.

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well i think her feet needs more definition, the problem with arm pit has already been told, and i dont know why but her hips, did u chaneg that ? because tehy where good on the first girl, they here look to tight, if u invest more time on this one im sure it will turn out great, ur heading good, and again, men i love ur mech !

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