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Hawkeye
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Posted: 24th Feb 2005 01:49
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Get the dbPowerAMP Music Converter - http://www.dbpoweramp.com/ It can handle .midi along with some other obscure midi formats. Mp3 converter only works for a month unless you regester it, but dbPowerAMP IMHO is the best music player/converter out there, so it's a good buy

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Posted: 24th Feb 2005 22:43
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what i really want is any software (converter, creator, editor etc...) that is FREE, DOWNLOADABLE and has no restrictions (i.e. 30 day trials etc...) that can make the sound quality really good - real like pianos instead of midi sounds, real like synths istead of midi stuff.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 24th Feb 2005 22:59
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You'll never find something with realistic piano sounds for free


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Hawkeye
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Posted: 25th Feb 2005 03:19 Edited at: 25th Feb 2005 03:20
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Oh yes you will - get ModTracker ([href]www.modplug.com/[/href]) Then download some of the .IT songs hosted on the site and use the samples from that.

Say you want a piano instrument - go to http://www.vinceyoung.com/novusmusic/novus.html and d/l Beacon, Words, and Luciet Intentions (or however you spell it ) All of those have great samples (including high/low piano). For metal tracks, go back to modplug.com and do a search for "The Black Mask" (song title) by AlienmaN. Asesome guitar samples and a kick-arse drumkit are all there

Of course, it's not exactly free, as you still need to credit the people you rip samples from (for the most part - if you convert to mp3 you generally don't need to worry unless it's either a very destinctive sample or you think someone might recconize it *inhales deeply*

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DeHonCha
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Posted: 25th Feb 2005 20:39
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damn those environmentalists!!! they make things so expensive nowadays

then what about Fruity Loops Studio - what exactly does it do?

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Posted: 26th Feb 2005 02:43
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You also have realistic sounding piano sounds right on your wavetable sound card. If you have any soundblaster from the earliest series live onwards, it's wavetable, and it has real digitised sound samples on it. The painos are probably the best sampled instruments on a decent sound blaster. So long as you use them properly with correct velocity variation and sustain, they sound very real.

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DeHonCha
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Posted: 26th Feb 2005 05:42
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sounds good

so how do i put this into effect?

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Posted: 26th Feb 2005 13:04 Edited at: 28th Feb 2005 12:46
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One thing that put me off Fruity Loops was the way it just didn't shut up. You play something and it would carry on echo-ing or reverberating on into the night. I havn't figured out how to controll samples but I make some real random songs from it. It's like putting some music to a young guy who works in a loud metal beating factory that goes on his lunch to sit on the toilet. Then dances to club music pathetic and has a sandwich while thinking about lyrics from radiohead/soundgarden songs.

I like it. Easy. Click your mouse on square 1 pattern 1 for a red cube. click SS in the top menu. and place some beats down. the browser on the side also has cool sounds. all the rest you gotta figure out

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Posted: 26th Feb 2005 20:56
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but is the quality worth the download time? or shuold i just conitnue using ANvil Studio? what y`all think

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Posted: 28th Feb 2005 01:50 Edited at: 28th Feb 2005 01:56
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If you're nmot wanting to do anything orchestral then Fruity Loops is all you need. The download time is worth it. You can listen to our poopy songs then once the download's done listen to the songs that come with the demo...unfrickin believable. You can fix the reverb problem by adjusting the FL Slayer settings, and using the piano roll instead of step sequencing on most of the instruments.

Songs:
http://mrbobdouglas.com/~crazydon/Rocka_du_Electronica.mp3
http://mrbobdouglas.com/~crazydon/diemontehouse.mp3 - This one is real insteresting, because my friend was messing around on this, and instead of setting all the drum hits in one pattern he spread them out over several patterns and made it sound like he had three or four whole different drum patterns when he just put together combinations of the few licks he already had.
http://mrbobdouglas.com/~crazydon/rockanthem.mp3
http://mrbobdouglas.com/~crazydon/pumpin.mp3
http://mrbobdouglas.com/~crazydon/runZEmissiles.mp3


I tried Anvil Studio once, played around with it, and found it just too much of a pain in the butt to use. That's when I found fruity loops.

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Posted: 2nd Mar 2005 13:57 Edited at: 2nd Mar 2005 14:00
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I'm had some fun in Fruity Loops today.. I kinda like it actually. they added in lots of features and allowed me to export mp3.. I havn't read the agreement yet so er. . I best do that now. lol.. hey CD, you make songs like me!

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 11:51
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Sweet dude. Since we were making an FPS before we wanted some hard rockin stuff in there.
Y'know what's fun is to use jazz progressions in these rock tunes.

Try using thisI being the root chord, etc.)
I-I-I-I
IV-IV-I-I
V-IV-I-I

So if you started with A it would be:
A A A A
D D A A
E D A A

Then fill in melody lines and all that, even if you deviate from it for art's sake it's still a nice place to start from.

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Posted: 7th Mar 2005 05:17
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HHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm back baby! and armed with a great, stupendous, downloading orientend modem att......................... 56k

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Posted: 9th Mar 2005 04:46
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and what about the Music Maker 2005 - right here on the db site? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh? huh?

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Holy son-of-a-manwich, calm down. I tried Music Maker....and it isn't all that great - the $50 version of FL Studio does more than Music Maker 2005 does. You're better off paying money for something from Sony or Cakewalk.

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Wired - The Elements Of Trance

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Oooo, nice idea Bear Crazy It's got that thumpin' beat to it.

Quote: " Holy son-of-a-manwich, calm down."

lol If I had space I'd stick that in my sig

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Posted: 10th Mar 2005 03:14
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download jeskola buzz. AWESOME if you can get it to work!!

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no peeps from anybody

anyway - ive got something to say - about music writing - anybody got some tips as to how to start making a piece with many instruments (what 2 do first and then next etc...)

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First figure out a prevalent theme or background rythm. Write that into the score, then if you're planning on using any large amout of percussion in the song throw in some initial drum rythms or cymbal crashes at this point. Next you need to put in variations of the melody, background chords, and more percussion.

If you're just doing a small combo type of arrangement you only need to add instruments as needed, but if you're writing for a fixed type of group like an orchestra or band then it's nice to start with a template.

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hmm... interesting - very interesting - i'm already doing that - i want to know how to make it sound really co-ordinated

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I Highly suggest SoundForge or Adobe audition for your sound needs.
If your are looking at something like Sound FX then try buing from places that sell digital audio equpitment, ask them for any thing that has SFX's on a disk.
I have one a library of over 1 million of SFXs on CD-ROM.

P.S. My dad is a p.a. system operator and has been running sound systems for over 40 years! So I know my stuff.

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thanks for the info - but i'm looking to make music for now...

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 15th Mar 2005 07:14 Edited at: 15th Mar 2005 07:15
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WOAH!!! I took Fallout's suggestion about Psycle tracker (or however you spell it ) I downloaded it about 15 minutes ago, went "OMG TEH BUTTONS!!!!11" Man that's seriously complicated to somebody who's used to using ModTracker. After messing around for a few minutes without even getting it to say "c-5" on the screen I gave up and poked around on the Psycle site for some sample songs. D/l "travel through time" and my jaw just dropped. I've NEVER heard such awesomest effects (reverb, pads, static blasts) in meh LIFE :o

Now I just finished listening to it.. still don't know how to work it.. but am seriously motivated now


EDIT: mp3 version here - http://www.track3z.net/artist/MfM/travelthroughtime.mp3

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Thanks for the tips, guys I downloaded Skale and Psycle trackers and will try them both out. I've been looking for a reason (no pun intended) to stop using Reason.


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I tried the demo of Reason...so confusing. My first choice would be Sonar 4. You can use the demo of FL Studio in it as a Rewire client, probably not legal, but I was planning on forking out the money for FL anyway.

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Posted: 16th Mar 2005 01:31 Edited at: 16th Mar 2005 01:32
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Oh crud I downloaded teh wrong one... http://www.skale.org/ vs http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/portal.php?sid=fceadd8ec9c4647c920de59bbe3e5907 They're both kinda hard to spell I guess

Ah well d/l-ing skale now Will have to see which one is more intutive to use, I guess.

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so what's the best package then i'm already 50 % through fl studiO!!

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Hmmm, appears my reaction to Psycle was a, uhm, little over the top It has cool reverb and echo generators, but everything else relies totaly on VST plugins. Which means my massive sample libary is of no use

Skale appears to be the one for me--cool looking interface, even if it is a little condensed. Only problem is, I still have five songs written in ModTracker that I haven't finished And I can't work on them in Skale either--no import feature. Which means I'm... confused. Maybe I'll just go stick my head in a foutain of spring water


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hmmm sound is cool wish i had faster inet though; 18% of flstudio so far
and this post will just slow it down more

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ditto! 50% and only 2 hours and 1 minute to go

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ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

i got fl studio - na na ne na na!!!

it's great - all you need (except for the no saving bit!_

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