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Geek Culture / End of Freeware for my games

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Ermes
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 00:56
Just to tell you this, an italian software house offer me a contract for my games, with royalties, boxed games with covers and so on, we'll start from a new version of Sunday Drivers, for italian market.
Next, a new and redesigned Sunday panzers with 2 players option, a new rally game (sunday drivers 2) and a fps.
So, no more ermesdesign games on this forum and on my site, and of course, no more "developed with darkbasic pro etc." in other way, this is the end of my freeware games, and my next games will be avaiable only in Italy and you must pay for them. The power of the money ...

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go to my www to play RAVEN, THE FLIGHT OF RAVEN, SUNDAY DRIVERS and SUNDAY PANZERS!
Mnemonix
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 00:59
Congratulations Ermes.


This is an achievement a lot of forum users, me included would give our right arm for.

Hope it goes well.

The 3d chat is coming...
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Dom
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 01:00 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2005 01:00
Quote: "and of course, no more "developed with darkbasic pro"
I can't believe you got so worked up about that!


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Flindiana Jones
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 01:01
Love your games...hate your tude and abandoning of freeware...

ermes: "I'e no way to be understanded."

Me: No kidding.
MikeS
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 01:30
Congrats on moving on Ermes. Will you be making games full time now?



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Hawkeye
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 02:32
Congrats Ermes You just landed a position many would give our right arm for. Best of luck with it

Drew Cameron
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 03:33 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2005 03:33
I like your games too, even though you have a selfish attitude, from what I've seen you do deserve a job making games. Good luck...

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GothOtaku
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 04:25
Which company bought the rights to your games?
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 11:42
If I were to cut off my right arm and mail it to you...

Congrats dude.

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Dave J
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 12:15
Is anyone else a little skeptical? I can't help but think he's just making up this whole thing to 'get back at' the community for that whole debacle that ensued a couple weeks ago. Well, that's just my opinion of course, I could be completely wrong.


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Mx5 kris
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 12:20
proof ermes

I agree with Exeat

if a man has a baby then something IS wrong.
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 12:53
What debacle is this?

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Dave J
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 13:35
Well I'm not going to start anything again here because as it stands, this is a perfectly legit thread and we wouldn't want to ruin it by restarting the debate. However, if you really must know, search for Ermes' last thread in this forum (keyword: 'emarginated').


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bitJericho
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 14:57
haha, well if it's true I cheer for ya

Hell if I'd be making freeware games when I could be making money off my programs

I believe the commercial route is just up your alley^_^ Doesn't matter how good of a person you are.. nobody cares when you're talking money and your users don't care as long as it's a fun game.

-just don't stab yourself in the back with your attitude, when it comes to the business world, if you're working for someone, they tell you how much recognition you get-


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Ermes
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 16:07
yes it's is true, i can be a selfish yea but i nevet told you a lie.
Exeat, i think we don't like each other so much, so i will be very pleased if you stop to use your smart deduction on my posts.
This is the end of freeware, because my royalties are in proportion of the games distribution , i.e. for Sunday Drivers i have a thin % of the gain because it was released as freeware one year and a half ago, however i can't make games fulltime for now, the gain is really little. Believe me it is all true. And i haven't to write all in english (oh!), but in italian, for the italian market.
Ah, Drew Cameron, sorry for making your name in the post of two weak ago.
I wish the same luck for all of you, for now i'm on the lowest step of the market (4,99 euro for a boxed game) with 0.20 euro of royalties for each copy. a really thin %.
Bye people!

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go to my www to play RAVEN, THE FLIGHT OF RAVEN, SUNDAY DRIVERS and SUNDAY PANZERS!
Dave J
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 16:20 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2005 16:20
I like you.


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Wiggett
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 16:38
hey i like ermes leave hima lone, good job ermes hope it all goes well from here. and say hello to your lovely morticia

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 16:39
Congratulations Ermes, it's always nice to see freeware developers going into published software and making some money for a change. Your at that happy budget level though, which is actually a good place to be - pocket money priced games means you'll hit the right market, kids. Parents love those 3-for-£10 style deals as well, so you could very well make more money at this price level than a higher one.

Getting DBPro games published is not inconceivible, I mean I've had a couple of offers over the years, but for my own situation it would be financially stupid of me to quit my job for an unceartain publishing deal. I imagine that it's the case all over this forum, people who'd love to quit their jobs or school so they can get stuck into a big game project, but unfortunately you can't pay your rent with kudos.


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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 17:00
Congratulations. Everyone around here should see this as hope for everyone

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Ermes
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 17:59
BatVink this is right, i'm not the first to go to publish my games developed with dbpro, and i hope i'll not be the last!
Uberwiggett i'll take your greets to morticia
and thanks Van-B, this is the same situation for me, i've a good job, i can't leave it for an uncertain game developer work.
Exeat i think you're joking me .
I hope all this it will not be a hole in the water.

Free Download for a Free World
go to my www to play RAVEN, THE FLIGHT OF RAVEN, SUNDAY DRIVERS and SUNDAY PANZERS!
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 18:17
Congrats, Ermes! Wish I could garner the same kind of attention for my games

Exeat, leave him alone... it's not our place to judge here.


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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 18:36
That doesn't mean we're not allowed to judge.


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Ermes
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 19:24
That doesn't matter, Exeat. There's someone judging me, in that case, you, and someone judging you, Exeat.
In that case, i'm allowed to judge you as your word say, and i think if i write what i think this topic will be locked.
So, if we can "fight" with the same weapon....

Jeku thank you for your best wishes, and the same to you.

i don't know how the things really goes, maybe in a couple of months it will be all fine or not. Anyway why don't try???

For all of you thinking to publish your games i've some advice:

1: make something playable and fun, make your game simple and nice.
2: try to be published as demo game in the demo disk of some PC magazine of your country.
3: don't start asking money for the first 3-4 games.
4: don't make the game you want to play but the game the customers want to play.
5: try to be popular on internet with your games
6: don't tell anyone you've make it with a basic, just lie and say C++
7: don't loose intrest on it, try to be popular for a couple of years
with your games and try to contact the budget line publishers.
8: Luck. a Big look to be finded by a talent scout (i was finded from a talent scout after publishing Sunday Panzers on a national italian magazine of pc games.)

That was my winning way.

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go to my www to play RAVEN, THE FLIGHT OF RAVEN, SUNDAY DRIVERS and SUNDAY PANZERS!
Benjamin
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2005 19:59
Congratulations buddy, may the force be with you


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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 01:47
Congratulations Ermes. Very well deserved. Good luck

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 02:22
Well done Ermes, I hope it goes well for you, but don't get too cocky now

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GothOtaku
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 02:24
I ask again, which company bought the rights to your games?
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 06:43
At least you're getting something ermes. Best of luck to you, and if I'm ever in Italy I'll pick up one of your games . I don't go to Italy...really...ever, but hey y'never know.

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Cian Rice
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 06:45
Pimpalicous. If the publisher ever releases it in Ireland next time I visit I'll purchase a copy! (Or learn Italian and buy it online).

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 10:43
Ermes, I enjoyed playing Raven. Best of good fortune to you.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 10:50 Edited at: 4th Mar 2005 10:50
Quote: "may the force be with you"

Funny, I'm listening to a Star Wars remix of Barry Manilow's Copacabana right now.... Odd...

Quote: "me included would give our right arm for"

What if we're left.. armded...

Either way, good luck on your climb to the top of the market.
If you become a big hot-shot game maker type person... Send me a free copy, and I'll.... Send you a signed picture of me and my cats...
Thanks.


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indi
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 11:24
good luck mate, congratulations with your new prospects.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 12:46
Good luck, but if you ever do make it near, or the top, dont forget about us.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 13:56
Sono bene Ermes! (that's about as complex as my Italian goes)

Best of luck to you and your game dev future.

Gaming resources.

Ermes
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 16:00 Edited at: 4th Mar 2005 16:01
oh, i'm very pleased to see all your widhes, thank you my dear friend!
GothOtaku , no company bought the rights of my games, i've a contact for a contract with (i can't tell the name) to publish my games.
In the next 3 weeks i've to remake the graphics of sunday drivers. If all go ok, they will publish the game. in the next months i've to make something better and more intresting to sell, i've in the pipeline a great rally game, really intresting and funny (it was Sunday drivers 2...) we'll see.
In the future if my games will be good enought, maybe they purchase the rights of my games, but this is a different situation.

Free Download for a Free World
go to my www to play RAVEN, THE FLIGHT OF RAVEN, SUNDAY DRIVERS and SUNDAY PANZERS!
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Posted: 4th Mar 2005 16:01
Good work, Ermes!

It's nice to see you have hit the commercial market with those games.

It's like you said, you made games that the players wanted to play, and that is what won it for you. A nice simple, but very fun game for all ages.

Good luck with the income you earn!

Jess.


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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 05:10
Quote: "GothOtaku , no company bought the rights of my games, i've a contact for a contract with (i can't tell the name) to publish my games."

Why can't you tell the name?
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Posted: 5th Mar 2005 06:32
GothOtaku, apparently it's part of the contract conditions. Many companies want things kept quiet under such circumstances. Why? Only the company knows THAT answer, but it generally makes sense to them, even if to no one else.

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