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Epidemicz
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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 04:23
Ok after seeing RPGamer's swords, I was inspired to get myself a copy of milkshape and actually learn how to use it, heh.

This is what I came up with a few mins ago, after seeing the pic on http://www.medievalweaponart.com.

[img]http://hawkeyebom.hypermart.net/arbedo sword.jpg[/img]

The one thing I have to work on is the pommel, but that is what I have so far.
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Epidemicz
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Gah forgot to click image....

[img]http://hawkeyebom.hypermart.net/arbedo sword.jpg[/img]

Oh and its 517 polys, heh.

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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 04:26
the hell?

[img]http://hawkeyebom.hypermart.net/arbedo sword.jpg[/img]

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omg!! one more time and I'll stop spamming.....I CLICKED IMG lol!!!

if it doesn't show its

http://hawkeyebom.hypermart.net/arbedosword.jpg

sorry for spam

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Blazer
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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 05:27
cool, but do you really need that many polys?, the blade itself could only be 6 polys on each side, 3 for the 3 sides and 3 for the tip.
Kyro
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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 05:36
I've been trying to do that for that last hour... all I got was a deformed blob

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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 05:46
Remember, modelling is only half the work. Its ok to let the texture show some of the detail without havin all the elevations on the model. Experiment until you think you get a nice blend.
Good luck,
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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 05:59
Very Nice. Has a good Fantasy feel. Disco Stu made a very valid point. Modeling is nothing compared to texture. The simplest box can turn heads depending on its texture. First off make the blade longer and maybe less of a taper to a point, unless the blade was made for thrusting. Then texture the boomstick!
Very Nice.

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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 06:19
Hey, thanks everyone.

Blazer:
I know I've got to cut a lot of the poly's, 3/4's are in the blade lol.

Kyro
This is a good tutorial for milkshape that helped me out.

http://www.planetquake.com/qworkshop3/tutorials/model-2/index.html

Disco Stu/Brent_Seraphim:
Well, I modeled it after this sword:
http://www.medievalweaponart.com/images/p/mrl1532.jpg

I changed it up a bit, but like I said, I'm not done. I'll take the advice on the texturing as well. I've gotta go for now, but I'll post an update sooN (hopefully less polys heh).

Thanks again for the c&c.

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Kyro
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Posted: 27th Jan 2003 06:20
This whole click 3 veritices to make a face in Milkshape has help me up for the last 20 minutes.... DESTROY SUPERMAN!

But like stu said, use texture... Then you can take over the world

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Posted: 28th Jan 2003 05:35
Wow I now have a small following......... 0_o

YOU WILL ALL NOW BOW DOWN TO ME!!!!
Hehe just joking.
Hmm it's been a while since I did any low-poly modelling of sorts, I think I'll give this swordcraze a go too. See how far I get.

Once you start modelling you see things differently (or it could just be me), sometimes I find it easier to work if I draw outlines on pictures of where and how polygons could be placed, it helps keep things simple and precise. But again that's just me, and I personally have a lot to learn.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2003 16:07




hehee i got bored so took 5mins away from programming to do this - for anyone who wants it.
Not great quality but should be oki for anyone's LOTR game

http://members.lycos.co.uk/timesaga/darkbasic/orcblade.zip

thats the SDK with the DirectX, Texture, PaintShop Texture and Milkshape Files
1.4Mb so ya know you have been warned lol

and give it 10mins from when i post cause 56k doesn't like large ammounts of data

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Posted: 28th Jan 2003 16:09
DOH! same bloody pic



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Blazer
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 02:58
cool, can i use it in game?
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:04
can't download, when I open it says incomplete file
Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:27
Nice orc sword! How do you make the little screen shots of the swords in MilkShape? I have a crappy sword that took me around 2hrs to make that I wanna show off

Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:29
Yer website doesn't like me, it won't let me go clicky-clicky

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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:34
right-click -> screenshot

i forgot about lycos's little "i don't wanna serve outside people"

so battle with my bugged forums and you should get it
Orc Sword

if you wanna use it you can thats - if you wanna see what can be done with 5minutes free time look over the development files

they are ofcourse copyright moi (RavenVegeta)
so if you do use it throw my name in at the end or put Raven Graphical Design in the "support" section of the credits ... ya know whatever hehee

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Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:44
I just wanna see how yo did it

Yeesh, why don't you just make a non-cool format webpage?
It would be a lot better for people with screwed up computers like me.

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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:45
Here is my sword:

Then there's this:


Told you it was bad!

Shadow Robert
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:50
can't link geocities (any kinda file)

kinda interesting... i did make a tutorial once for making swords - but i didn't like it after getting my girl to go through it, i dunno just didn't seem good enough.

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Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 03:52
I'll transfer 'em to html, then post the links...

Your sig is bugging me, I can't think of what aru or kowagaru mean! All I can read is "you ??? ?????? (show possesion) me".

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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 04:04
hehee... many people have tried to translate but most don't know enough or try to use sites to do it.

problem is with interpretive languages, you can only get the general words not the exact meaning.

"Everyone's fear(feeling of) in Possesion of I"
is basically the exact phase ... which actually means
"Everyone will Fear Me"

which actually cracks me up to have a dancing GIR beside it

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Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 04:09
Grrr.... I hate geocities. It's REALLY being gay now


http://www.geocities.com/kyroryu/sword.html

One of those may work... probally not

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Kyro
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Finally... but I doubt you can see it. So go to
http://www.geocities.com/kyroryu/sword.html

Shadow Robert
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 04:19
lol... i saw the sword... is kinda basic
just post the links up here - as soon as we spot "Geocities" or "Angelfire" we all know what we have to do

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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 04:20
Wow I inspired someone Nice looking sword their Epi! Raven- nice orc sword (ive seen your modelling before- nuff said lol) Kyro- keep it up! Nice work!

Good job all of you! Wow I cant believe I inspired someone Kudos to you guys

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Kyro
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 04:27
Turning my sword into net fluff would've been easy Did you guys make your swords using mainly the vertex and face functions?

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Thanks RP.

I need to work on my texturing lol, I just textured my sword, but I am ashamed to look at it lol... I still have to kill some of those polys as well, I'll post something else when it looks decent

[B]Kyro/B]

Yeah, mine was all vertex, then face , click, click, click lol.... Lots of linking faces...heh.

AAAHhhh, your sshots are soo tiny lol, but cool.

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 05:52
yup Vertex and simple extrude modelling

not really many other ways to model within Milkshape ...
however i did make the rounding of the handle with a Vertec Divide - wasn't grand.

Given a while shouldn't be hard to make something a little more worthwhile

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grrr ^Vertex ... :: grumblesnoflippineditbuttongrumbles ::

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Hehe, only if there were...

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Posted: 29th Jan 2003 14:09
Yep Vertex editing for me! Place place click click click repeat over and over again LOL.

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The thing I don't like is the fact that Milkshape puts all the things it one groups so you can't hide part of it so you can clicky clicky a face without having it connect to the wrong vertexes like 50 times

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Highlight the things that you want in one group and hit regroup, should work then.

Like if you make your handle then go to vertex edit the hilt...select the whole handle and regroup, and after you make the faces for the hilt select just those and regroup.

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Nice looking models........ too bad I can't toss something in to show what I can do. I hate being where I'm at at the moment, and as well............. Kyro you stole my name. :p I've been using that as a screen name for about ummm........ 10 years now. I'm hurt.

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I made it up about 3 years ago, and some hardware company has been using it for a long time.

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yeah that bugged me about Milkshape too... even more so because Mete has the edit that i made him for using the 3D Window as an extra dev area - but he refuses to put it in cause he doesn't want to change the style until 2.0.0
also why the working booleans arn't there either, he's got alot of cool tools which are waiting on his new "professional" front.

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Kyro
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I tried to make the sting sword... I gave up 2 minutes later, damn curve was annoying me

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Found a way to put your vertices and matrixes into new groups! You just select, then hit the regroup button! MWAHAHAHA

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Duh! If you want to select an individual face (maybe for reversing it) then I just suggest using the face tool and going over the vertices, that selets that one face for you.

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Kyro:

Look up 5 posts I just said that... lol

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