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STALKER
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Ahoyhoy! I have been working on a little something for the Cinco de Mayo and TGC Puzzle compo. Decided to use both a puzzle AND a sombrero theme in this game so i could enter it in both comps.

By now i realise ill never finish it in time, but i am liking the concept even more, and a year or so down the track this should be a complete game!

Here are the screens of the 3 main characters:






And the same models in "Shoert Film" mode, getting prepared for an assesment Animation:






Feel free to say what you think of them, constrctive criticism would be appreciated.
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Those look really funny and very Mexican. My Mexican dudes look just as Mexican but nowhere near as good. Great work.

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Yeah, those are like 1500 billion times than my mexican dude, but he has gusto. Major gusto.


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Wow. Those are great.
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Im going for the cartoony look. You guys heard of "The Lost Vikings"?
Well thats the style game i am making

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I instantly thought you were when I saw the unique look to all of the models anyways they look nice.

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Thanks. As soon as I get home from school I plan to work on them to perfect for the game, but the movie ones have a long way to go. I have some touch ups for the game meshes:

Animatable mouths and eyes
Ears
Hair
Character tools
Make connection to body easier and better

The bodys proportions will change according to each characters build,
so i need to get that done. After i do that i can get the clothing accesories complete. I also have completed hand models that i need to attach.

..............then mapping....
..............rigging.........
..............animations......
..............sigh............

Ill give it 2 weeks until total completion.

These models will also feature in a HL2 MOD, to keep an eye out.

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i dont even need mexican dudes but still nice!

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hehe, that is some awsome models there, captures the mexicana spirit to a T
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Hehe. I was surprised at how difficult I found it to find reference pics for mexican guys.
In the end I just made em using no concept sketches or reference pics.

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Ah god those models rock

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Ya, those are great!

the only part that looks weird is their hands....which kinda look like elephant feet...

but if they are supposed to be that way for style then that's fine! (or maybe you just haven't added the hands yet?)

I'm glad my game isn't in 3D because yours would beat it.

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Quote: "the only part that looks weird is their hands....which kinda look like elephant feet...

but if they are supposed to be that way for style then that's fine!"

Well i am working on the hands at the moment, VERY low poly as i dont see the need for good detail on these. They will hardly be visible.

Anyways here are some new head shots.






Notice the ears...
Next is the body work, Hands and then they will be complete(as far as modelling is concerned)

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Waaaahahahahahahaha greetings camper. Yes you can use my models for a HL2 mod. For $100,000,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOT Game Meshed DONE!!!! Now UV Map, Rig and Animate!






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Nice models!

If you can texture and animate half as good as you model they will be awesome!

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Yea....about that....uuh...

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I think your models look better in the tan/yellow colour than with all the detailed/grey colour; it makes them look at though their made out of dough or something

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Los medelos son execelente, muy bien.


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They are absolutely brilliant!

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^^bump^^

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what program did you use?

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Pro-gram?

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I think he means did you use 3ds max or Maya or whatever.

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3Ds Max 6

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What modeller did you use ?

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Umm... He said 3ds max 6 the post before

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Do'h!

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Were those box modeled w/ meshsmooth, etc?

Also, would you mind posting a wireframe from front/side viewport? I'm kinda learning how to model characters with Max and yours are AWESOME!!!!

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I used spline modelling. Thats my prefered style. To each his own. Heres the wireframes...


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Wait , you mean you modelled them using the spline method ? As in you modelled in every single vertex ? Or did you make them out of basic shapes (NURBS primitives) ?

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ouch, triangulated, personally I'd say that increases the poly count unecessarily, oh well

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So what does spline mmodelling method mean ?

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Dark basic triangulates the models anyway so it doesnt nmatter. I can remove the triangles in 3ds but i didnt see the point.

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Quote: "What is the meaning of spline modelling ?"


repondez s'il vous plaits

R S V P

Reply to my question pLs

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okay I see.

@ Keemo, I don't have clue, I box model and polygon model, oh only splines to lathe.

I know you can makes spline nurbs and either use them as a rail for an object to follow, or use them to extrude, lathe, sweep and other nurb stuff. Other uses, I've never tried except in plugins, like bolt classic, it uses sweeped splines to recreate a lightning effect.

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if spline modelling is the way i think , then it will never be accurate .

The way i think :- get a back ground pic (of a boy maybe) then put vertexes along the oultine (profile) of his body , then switch to face tool , and start attachin faces , finally , ctrl+a then extrude and your done .

is that the way >?

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Quote: "repondez s'il vous plaits

R S V P"


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keemo, thats polygon modelling (well thats what it is in C4D) polygon modelling can be innaccurate, but if you apple a smooth shading and maybe some texture too, it can hide problems, or you could apply Hyper nurbs (3ds max term.....ummmmm Turbo smooth?) and those inaccuracies disapear, but the poly count soars


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No comprendo. No hablo francés. Hablan inglés por favor.

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Was? Ich weiss es nicht!
Nan? watashi wa wakarimasen!

Ich kann nicht Spanien sprechen!
Watashi wa Supiengo wakarimasu!

oh and you might want me to stop being an idiot now lol

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Spline modelling in 3ds max is the process of drawing out lines and connecting then to get a shape, then draw out the lines into 3d space untill you get the right dimensions for the shape. Apply a surface modifier to transform it into a visible 3d object. the you can choose how many sections you want it to have and change the smoothness, and still edit the splines underneath so it is really easy to change things around. If you have 3ds max I;d recommend it.
Afterwards you could jjust convert to poly to do minor modifications. And, if done correctly, It is very accurate.

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What do you mean by "Draw out the lines into 3d space" ?

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Quote: "Afterwards you could jjust convert to poly to do minor modifications."


Um , does that mean reducing poly counts ?

Spline or Poly modelling is becoming easy for me in milkshape . But How do i reduce polys to make my models load faster ?

I dont want to buy that TGC prog to reduce polys , is there a scode snippet for it to be reduced in DBP or some prog that reduces it for free ?

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use the tools and make less poly gons than you usually do, you can reduce the poly count in some programs, but in programs like trueSpace it looks aweful, so do what I do and make the object low poly yourself

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Max can reduce Polygons with MultiRes it looks good if you use it right.

Indian Homie G in max you can make splines in 3ds space like make a helix its a twisty spline that has height. but like if you made a spline in the front viewport the spline would be standing up and he could make 3d shapes made out of splines. Sorry if you cant understand
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Quote: "j'detest le Francias
Je Suis merd de Francais! (before my friend corrected me I used to say Je Suis merd et francais, I am $%£& and french? lol)"
Vous avez fait un faute! Maudite anglophone(j/k)! C'est merde pas merd. ET T'AS éCRIT "FRANçAIS" DU MAUVAISE FAçON! AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!! *Manticore cherche son pistolet et sort du maison* MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Translation: I'm CRAZY!!!!

PS. Nice models. Kinda seem Tamalé(sp?) Loco-ish, or maybe it's just 'cause they're all spanish-like.

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my french is terrible ahhhh!!!!!! i think the c'est merde pas merd is correcting my spelling, look I did german instead of french aghh!!

Je suis en poisson!!!! Je deteste le dentefris (spelling?)
Ich bin ein fisch!!!! Ich hasse die(der/die/das?) Zahnpasta.
Watashi wa sakana desu!!!!! (Dunno the Jap)

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Word for word (attempted) translation of manticore's little french spaz:

You made a mistake. Stupid british! Something something, Manticore looks for his pistol in the house.

Lol, French 1-2 class in high school with a retarded teacher doesnt help much .

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mantikoru wa baka desu! anata wa nihongo wakarimasen!!!! Watashi wa furansugo wakarimasen......furansugo ga tokui desu!!!!!!!!! Nan wa baka desu!!!!!!

and now to switch to chinese (mandarin)

Wo sang li hei sohi, wo hei dafagei! Dao li!

BTW what I said was all a joke, don't take anything in offense

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Manticore is an idiot! You don't understand Japanese!!!!! I don't understand french......hate french! What an idiot!!!!


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I believe you are an idiot. I am a w*$£%£$ next bit I won't tranlate I'll say is a very harsh way of telling some one to go away and begins with F and second word being with O

Hope you learnt some stuff to go around a chinese or a sushi bar with

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Is it me, or does Stalker always get his threads hijacked, and it always when I'm involved........this one isn't my fault! The guitar one was

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