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FieldDoc
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Posted: 22nd May 2005 00:43
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Hi,

I have just stumbled upon Omega Basic. It says that it runs on Mac and Linux. Is this referring to just the Java apps it spits out or does the IDE run on Mac? I am a Mac owner and have been desparately looking for a BASIC language I can use on the Mac to program my PDA.

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FieldDoc
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Posted: 24th May 2005 02:43
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Anybody?
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Kentaree
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Well, seeing as the java apps it spits out are made to be ran on a phone, and not on a pc, I think you can safely assume the ide/compiler will work on linux
Iirc, its written in java, so it should be relatively cross-platform anyway

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David R
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Quote: " I think you can safely assume the ide/compiler will work on linux"


+Mac (providing you have the appropriate java version)

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Just to be a bollocks, Mac OsX runs on a linux kernel if I remember correctly

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David R
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Yeah... but its not technically linux. (kind of is/kind of isn't)

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John Y
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Yes, there is a mac and linux version available, albeit in beta until we have time to get it properly tested.

Drop me an email at John@Digital[nospam]omega.net

(remove [nospam])

and I'll send you the IDE.

Mac does NOT run on any type of linux kernel, but it does use a modified unix base


Http://www.DigitalOmega.Net & Http://www.LevelMaker3D.co.uk
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Mattman
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Offtopic, but long time no see FieldDoc! I can't remember exactly what you were making but I remember liking your game in devleopment! What happened? (Wasn't it like a terrorist game?)

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Hey,

Yeah it has been a looong time. I had two projects on the go. a hacking simulator and a turn-based space strategy game. To cut a long story short my laptop fried and I bought a Mac

Hence the no show at the DB forums (since DB won't run on a Mac). Nice to see the same people around though. Pretty amazing all the new apps on offer as well!

FieldDoc,
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Yes, that hacking game! Ever go back to it? It was looking cool

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FieldDoc
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Well, I made a start using REALbasic (similar to VB but also for the Mac). Didn't seem to be too much interest in it in the Mac world Plus, multi-threading code to handle simultaneous user-written scripts made my head dizzy

@JohnY:
Cheers mate, have sent you an email.
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indi
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theres also a program language called METALBASIC for the mac.

macs unix core came from BSD, it started its life as NeXT and then OSX.

have a look at the developer cd that comes with your OSX bundle, its like MSDEVC++ for free but can handle so many different languages.

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Quote: " Just to be a bollocks, Mac OsX runs on a linux kernel if I remember correctly"

No, it uses a version of the Mach kernel interlaced with a movified version of FreeBSD which is related to the technologies at the core of the old NeXT operating system.
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indi
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Posted: 26th May 2005 13:28 Edited at: 26th May 2005 13:28
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no it comes from the NeXt/openstep core

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html

It would be an understatement to say that OS X is derived from NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP. In many respects, it's not just similar, it's the same. One can think of it as OpenStep 5 or 6, say. This is not a bad thing at all - rather than create an operating system from scratch, Apple tried to do the smart thing, and used what they already had to a great extent. However, the similarities should not mislead you: Mac OS X is evolved enough that what you can do with it is far above and beyond NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.

while the mach and machten setup was a lot of fun and ran inside your older macs classic environment its not where OSX was founded.

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Yes, which is essentially what I said since NeXTSTEP was Mach 2.5 interlaced with 4.3 BSD. However, OS X uses code taken from Mach 3.0 and code from the FreeBSD poject which is an extention of 4.4BSD-lite. There is a difference, using code from FreeBSD allows the core of the operating system (Darwin) to remain free and open source otherwise they'd have to pay a license to use the original AT&T code (now owned by SCO). While at their core they are the same (even the Cocoa API for OS X is for the most part compliant with OPENSTEP) they are different since OS X is a vast upgrade and improvement over NeXTSTEP. It's like saying Windows 95 WAS DOS. Windows 95 used DOS as a base and relied on it for many tasks but no one would say that it was DOS despite the fact that they were inseparable.
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