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Geek Culture / Isn't there this weird belief that everyone has a cable broadband connection?

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ReneGade RG
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Posted: 5th Jun 2005 20:38
Isn't there this weird belief that everyone has a cable broadband connection? I mean TS2 was amazing fun for multiplayer, in comes TS3 and they ditch the whole cutscreen thing and instead replace it with online play and the whole multiplayer experience ends! They say that by 2008, there will be 8 million people hooking up there console to broadband and playing online, isn't that quite a drop from 100 million people already playing single-player games every year?!

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Posted: 5th Jun 2005 21:01
Quote: " Isn't there this weird belief that everyone has a cable broadband connection?"

No, but everyone should have at least a 2Mb connection, but...

Quote: "They say that by 2008, there will be 8 million people hooking up there console to broadband and playing online"

...a lot of people cant afford it (or get it).

EddieB
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Posted: 5th Jun 2005 21:45
I have just got 2MB broadband after painfull years of 56k waiting for a hour downloading somting to find it has disconected
ReneGade RG
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Quote: "I have just got 2MB broadband after painfull years of 56k waiting for a hour downloading somting to find it has disconected "


Well, all I have is 516k dsl...and there are amny alot like me

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Posted: 5th Jun 2005 23:07
Modem anyone?

It's M-E-G-A-T-O-N. NOT MEGATRON.
DON'T MAKE ME GET THE RABBIT.
ReneGade RG
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AOL

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David T
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 00:15 Edited at: 6th Jun 2005 00:15
My sympathies.

Quote: "in comes TS3 and they ditch the whole cutscreen thing "


My TS3 has split screen multiplayer...

Facts are meaningless.
You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.
David R
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 00:21
576kbps Broadband (One.tel) with no D/load limit.

Life is sweet (sweet enough)

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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 00:24
Mnemonix
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 00:49
Nildram is so rubbish

Try out the controller:-
http://controller.logicstudios.net
EddieB
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 00:54
I have a 2GB Download limit , But if I go over, It's only £2 per GB. Not bad
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 01:13
Quote: " Nildram is so rubbish"

Your just jealous

Raven
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 03:06
Quote: "Isn't there this weird belief that everyone has a cable broadband connection?"


That weird belief might come from the Internet Connection Agency that had on record something like 80% of all Internet users connects via a 256K Cable/xDSL Connection across the United States, Canada, America, and Europe.

In Korea, China and Japan this figure rises to almost 100% of all Internet capable homes. Though that is because of the government funded accessibility and prices.

Given that here in the UK the majority of the country is capable of being connected via Broadband in some form, and how it costs almost identical to get Broadband or Narrowband

(NTL:1MB - £17.99 / NTL:Anywhere - £15.99)

Well it's not hard to see why people prefer to spend an extra few quid to get reasonably fast connections.

Quote: "Nildram is so rubbish"


They don't provide for my area, and they would cost me more in the long run due to my overall useage. They're far better for lighter users who don't particpate in online-games or huge downloads.

Generally speaking I download over 2GB of software everyday.
Given my connection speed it is often easier just to download the DirectX SDK again rather than having it backed up... I mean 20minutes is nothing really. I could easily spend that trying to find where the heck I put it. heh

So most provider are best based on what you can afford and where you are.

While I could moan about BT and thier service, ADSL still works much like Narrowband does; and only requires special equippment each end of the phoneline. So you can literally take it anywhere and connect via any phoneline provided it's within a 50mile radius of an ADSL Server.

Unfortunately with my Cable I can't just jack-in to the Coaxial anywhere heh

I think now that the internet is such a huge part of our lives, that the phonelines are replaced with more Digital Savvey lines.. specifically for high-speed internet connections.

If you think about it the UK is ridiculously behind the rest of the world in terms of internet speed; despite ADSL being created here, it was just too slowly integrated by BT. (and expensive!)

I mean our max connection speed is not 4Mbit, when counteries like Korea are running on a national 1GBit grid! You just can't compete against those players who have like 0ping, and you're pushing like 60-80ping.

Might as well have the targetting reticle on your gun randomly change position.

So in a nut-shell, the answer is yes.. because we are majoritively on Broadband connections.

Dot Merix
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 03:18 Edited at: 6th Jun 2005 03:19
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/ShawHighSpeedXtremeI/

Well, this is what i use for cable internet...



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SageTech
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 16:42
O ya, well I can beat you all! I surf the internet at the amazing, breathtaking, speed of 48000 bytes! Amazing how fast that is isnt it! I feel so sorry for you 2mb people.

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ReneGade RG
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Posted: 6th Jun 2005 22:05
No download limit for moi and does the PS2 version of TS3 have cut-screen?!

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DBAlex
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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 00:48
Lightning Studios: I have onetel 576kbps Too, Its ok... But never try and call the support tech people...


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IanG
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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 00:57 Edited at: 7th Jun 2005 01:00
ive got a 2 meg connection capped at 100GB a month - its only £25 as well

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DBAlex
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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 01:03
Whoa!

Thats Nice IanG... (We pay that price and ours is 576... but its not capped)

Which provider is that?


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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 01:28 Edited at: 7th Jun 2005 01:29
Well. I've got 24 Mbit, and it costs me around £25 per month. And no limits on anything. Life is sweet.

*ducking*

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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 03:47 Edited at: 7th Jun 2005 03:57
well, at home i've got dsl. at college we have dual fiber optic oc3 connections, which i think is around 150 Mbps. the second OC3 line is connected to internet2. Our backup connection is a T3 line. I can download an entire full length album in about 3 minutes, a good quality movie in about 7, and UT2004 in about 30. it's pretty damn sweet.

oh, wow. insignificantpunks.cjb.net.
no: website for progs yet.
dj blackdragon3710
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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 04:11
4 mb . I think thats pretty good for out in the Middle of nowhere .

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Night Giant: No one cares if your a rich bastard... Or not...




(Me cries... i only have 576kbps... )

But ill be getting 2mb soon... hopefully...


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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 05:20
Hopefully we'll be getting 4 or 8Mb ADSL from next year...

Raven
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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 06:29
We already have 4Mb in this area, although NTL only offer upto 3Mb.
Currently I have a 2Mb for £19.99 per month, plus while they claim it has a 1GB Cap Per Day, I've downloaded far more than that without even a warning.

Aparently they've had the cap for years, never noticed myself.

Something that annoys me though is while I have a 2Mb download, I still only have a 256Kb upload.

Personally I would gladly give up 1Mb of download speed if they changed it to 1Mb Down 1Mb Up. I'm sure I'm not the only personal who plays games online and finds that the upload limit is causing my ping to suffer.

At 1Mb you should be getting roughly 10-20ping on just about any server worldwide; but unstead I see 8-40 locally and 60-120 internationally.

Adverage being 25 Local, and 80 International.
While sure I can be happy that this is so low, the main issue; is the fact that the connection hasn't changed speed ping-wise since first changing to Broadband 150K 2years ago.

Also if they do introduce this 'Cap' limit or rather enforce it. Games online suck up more bandwidth than Paris Hilton.. so I'd be looking at a few hours gaming OR internet a day.

Personally I don't understand the point in these 'Capped' Tarifs.
I mean seriously, not everyone is downloading 6GB Videos of porn.. if it is really THAT bad why don't they actually buy new hardware to cope with more customers?

I mean for NTL it's a 1GB Cap on, 1Mb - 2Mb - 3Mb.. so all your doing is paying more to exceed your bandwidth cap quicker!
It's like who the hell cares if you can download the video 3x in 20minutes or 2hours; if you can only end up downloading half of it due to your cap limit?

Most online MMORPGs are now fully downloadable, being almost 2-3GB each, not to mention Half-Life 2 was fully downloadable.

With a cap you'd buy the game then find out you have to spend like a week trying to download the bloody thing. You bought it online so you DIDN'T have to spend a few hours going in to town and dealing with people.. Yet it seems you have to wait longer for the privilage of being able to access it instantly.

I mean Valve aren't going to take your payment in smaller bandwidths are they?

Your cable company doesn't give you say... 3hrs of viewing each day do they? So why the hell do we have to put up with these dumbass cap-rates?

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Quote: "Something that annoys me though is while I have a 2Mb download, I still only have a 256Kb upload"

Thats what SDSL is for - expect to pay £200 a month for that though.

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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 14:07
you'd be surprised how many ppl still use AOL, even after ordering DSL. Dummies don't know the difference.

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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 14:17
AOL has always been a resource hog, but it makes for a very good, and more importantly idiot-proof system for those who don't need to be multi-tasking the system or playing games.

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Posted: 7th Jun 2005 16:30
Sucks for you guys ('cept Night Giant). I've got a 100mbps connection, after splitting it up amongst 4 computers. Probably doesn't change much, but hey it's still fast. Don't know of any caps.

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