Quote: "Actually, I'm not a voter because i'm underage, making you incorrect . Plus, I didn't make this thread to get flamed, I made it to learn. Why would I be asking these questions if I did have a clue? Another thing, are you speaking on behalf of all the Democrats in America? If so your sadly mistaken. I'd like to see how that would stand against other Democrats in this forum."
If you were just asking questions then you would've recieved an answer, but you are making assumptions. Given what you were assuming it led me to believe you were actually a voter.
Though that isn't always true, given Mouse has one of the biggest opinionated stances on politics and he still has a good 2-4years before he can vote. It is something that irritates me about him. Rather that trying to learn and listen he seems to feel the knowlage he has and having google as one of his favourites instantly makes him some sort of instant guru on any subject. He particularly likes to excersise this within the politics theatre.
If you wish to learn, then ask questions; and there are many people here who would be willing to explain what they understand. There is also the United States Government page, which outlines much about the technical side of how things work.
Quote: "Raven if we didn't go to war, we would have gotten bombed again. Could you imagine 9/11 all over again?!"
I'm standing by my statement that it was a Conflict not a War. Though honestly, I don't see what staging a military action to overthrow a dictatorship has anything to do with a terrorist cell attacking America.
Yes, September 11th 2001 was a horrific display of terrorism power. Yet how is it any different to the Unibomber? Who killed several hundred people each time he set a Van to explode? He was American, so it isn't just the people outside of the country that are suffering.
The question is, do you actually understand WHY America was attacked in the first place?
That is possibly the most paramount question to ask... and yet no one asked it. The way the government played it, were that outsiders were attacking your freedom and revenge must be exacted. This action was the exact reason that these terrorists attack you in the first place.
And they didnt' attack the Trade Towers by accident either. It wasn't as if they were trying to send a message JUST to America, that wasn't what it was about. They attacked building that could instablise the American economy, as well as the local interests (i.e. United Kingdom as well).
Did you know that 4 Seperate Terrorist attacks from the same group were attempted in the United Kingdom?
I bet that's a little fact that you were never told about. You know why they failed yet here, yet attacks succeeded in the United States?
It comes down to the simple point, that the United Kingdom or more'over, N.Ireland and England have been for almost 60-70years iirc under constant paramilitary threat particularly from Terrorist attacks. Is it the peoples fault? No; Is it the government's fault? Yes.
People always will suffer at the hands of terrorists because of things governments do, sometimes even decades in the past. Often is the case that some point neither the government or the faction remember exactly why it's happening, just that it's always been that way and it always will be.
And while England call these Terrorist attacks, the opposite site looks at them as acts for liberation.
Did you know that during the early 80s, Afgahnistan was one of those countries fiercely found over by the Russian and American governments? It was being fought over simple because the other side wanted it. There was no regard to the citizens living there, to these super-powers it was just a prize to flaunt. Though there also might be interesting to point out that Afgahnistan is one of the biggest Opium Poppy growing countries. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it or not, but it's nn interesting side point.
Russian aren't attacked for the simple reason, they originally won the country; amd armed them against the americans. Later the americans fought back the country and tried to change it; once russia lost interest, so did the americans. So after rifing the entire country through a war that didn't consern them, and changing them to ahear to american values... one day they just left leaving the country in a state of disarray.
It's hard not to feel pissed off, especially when a country who can't understand your language tells you that your god is false; and thier god is true. This is all one big Jihad to Al'qeda, it's a holy war for retribution.
To the americans its' a terrorist attack for no reason. No doubt as far as the people are conserned they have no idea why it's happening. So they're scare, their angry and to look good the governments wants to show that they are determined to bring those responsible to justice.
Question is... who are they punishing. Iraq had nothing to do with the Al'qeda so why go to "war"? They'd already once again forced over Afgahnistan, forcing the country to rebuilt once again, and now again leaving them to do it on thier own while focus of the people is elsewhere.
While Iraq is now 'free', it doesn't make the United State any safer. The governments way of keeping the people safe is by restricting the freedoms of it's people.
None of my freedoms have been restricted here in England, yet I feel safe from terrorist attacks. Maybe not safe from being mugged or something during the night in the centre of town; but our police has always been kinda weak (within my lifetime anyways)
Quote: "I have a question Raven, what do you do for a living, seems like you know a loooooot about computers n such. (not trying to be rude just wondering )"
Right now, I'm a Programmer. This said, usually I'm an Artist.
CG Engineer, Texture Artist, Environment Modeller, etc.. I've done just most aspect of art over the last 8years.
