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JoelJ
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(Probably not the best site to post this, but there are a few successful people here )

I've been programming in Java and C# for a while now, and I'm needing a source of income now. The problem is I have just had knee surgery and will be doing physical theorpy for a while and will have a really messed up time scedual, so I need something that I can do when I have time for it. So I've been looking at freelance sites (elance, getafreelancer, stuff like that) but the problem is that the other people have a LOT more experience than I do and people will choose them over me.

So I'm here wondering if anyone has success in Freelance programming and where they get their projects from (online?, people you know?) and if anyone has any suggestions, Jimmy excluded

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http://www.scriptlance.com

Im deffinately not the most experienced person with PHP programming, but I can always find a job in 3 days max. Usually overnight. The key is to post a bid in every single job that is doable, then post all the good qualities of your work. Never mention anything bad about yourself(common sense), and as you get projects, you get reviews, as you get good reviews, more people are willing to hire you. Best programming freelance site I have found.

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JoelJ
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cool thanks, i'm looking at it now

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Anyone recommend doing freelance?

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I am a freelance/consultant programmer. I just scored a 1 year contract thru a friend of mine who's also a consultant, who is building up his company. He managed to get a large contract and he brought me on to be his lead developer for this project, but not as a w2 employee - as a freelancer (plus I maintain my own dev company which is separate and aside) He will be hiring 2 other people that I will be managing at the client's onsite location. Yay.

a good plce to look is guru.com and maybe rentacoder.com

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actarus
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Freelance artist here

Doesn't pay as much as it's a rewarding so I can't recommend it to everyone but it's definitely fun to see your stuff on tv and such.

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Quote: "http://www.scriptlance.com

Im deffinately not the most experienced person with PHP programming, but I can always find a job in 3 days max. Usually overnight. The key is to post a bid in every single job that is doable, then post all the good qualities of your work. Never mention anything bad about yourself(common sense), and as you get projects, you get reviews, as you get good reviews, more people are willing to hire you. Best programming freelance site I have found."


Leys, does this include accepting payment from your client, then running off with his money, and ignoring the second person you happened to be working with? Because that's kinda of what you did to us.

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actarus
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Nice level designs on your site Megaton.

Are they rendered in realtime?

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Drew Cameron
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Yes, they are from the Blackout FPS game, look at the site in his portfolio.

Sorry to answer the question for you, Megaton


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Drew Cameron
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Oh, and at Joel - check out www.gamedev.com as they have people looking for programmers, and have a look at www.gamasutra.com for a similar thing.

Hope that helps.


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Yes, those are in-game shots from DBP. If you want to see them in action, I can get you the link to the FPS demo. Just a sec...

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http://www.prodigygames.co.uk/web/upload_files/BlackoutDemo.rar

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I'll check that out once I get in windows.

BTW:I got some free time this week and it would be my pleasure to make another model for the community...

Is anyone actually using my all-so controversial werewolf character?(apart from Kentaree of course)

Of course,the thought of a ww with an ak47 isn't much orginial(or is it? )

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yeah someone from 3DW forums got a job 3D modelling at gamedev, I might look into that myself actually, I'm not a freelancer, just a learner but theres no harm in looking myself

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Leys, does this include accepting payment from your client, then running off with his money, and ignoring the second person you happened to be working with? Because that's kinda of what you did to us.
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Like I said, I never got paid. I thought it was a good deal because he paid 50% up front to my scriptlance account, but after I was out for like 2 days, he had it removed from my account. So that project was a failure. Next time I just have to realise that I shouldn't work for 15yr olds. Sorry about all that happened.

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He said the exact opposite. That the $100 went to you and he never got anything. One of you guys is lying, but I apoligize if what you say is true.

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Yes, originally he sent me $100 as a down payment, but after I returned from a certain accident I had, the money was removed from my account and haven't gotten anything since. However, I still have all the files and he hasn't recieved anything, so i don't know what his deal is.

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Guess this is what I get for not taking everything into my own hands.

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Quote: " Guess this is what I get for not taking everything into my own hands."


Lol, I doubt you could have. When I told him just to deal with you about the graphics stuff...he always came to me still, not very bright imho.

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Yes I noticed the guy was abit of a nut-job. Kept yelling at me asking for my phone number while I tried to calmly explain to him that the long-distance phone bill would cost more then the entire project. Then he told me "No, I own you and now you work for me. Make me a template"...(for which I never got payed btw) Anyway, a lesson well learned.

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Jimmy
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Quote: "if anyone has any suggestions, Jimmy excluded"


Here's a suggestion, GET A JOB.


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Quote: "Here's a suggestion, GET A JOB.
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GET A DICTIONARY; so you can work out what 'excluded' means

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OH, I thought it meant Included. MY BAD.


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JoelJ
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Posted: 13th Jul 2005 03:31 Edited at: 13th Jul 2005 03:32
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let me help you
"to prevent from being included, considered, or accepted; reject"

i like the reject part the best

dang, i'm slow, i guess that's whatyou get for writing the message and not pressing POST for five minutes

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I'm not Jimmy, so does that mean I'm Included? If I am yay. And to get a freelancer you have to run down your street naked with your e-mail address tatooed on your a$$, then people will start calling you.

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No Joel, let me help YOU

Quote: " 1. Used as a disparaging term for a mentally retarded person.
2. A person considered to be foolish or socially inept."



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Quote: " I'm not Jimmy, so does that mean I'm Included?"

no, i just decided, your excluded also

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Has this thread just lost all usefulness?



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Shutup Leys.

Stop trying to act like a friggin mod. They won't let you in. They don't let in spammers. They let in gays and retards, but no spammers.


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anyone else know of a good place to start?

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Quote: " Shutup Leys.

Stop trying to act like a friggin mod. "


You say that no matter what I post. Im simply stating the obvious, no need to get all upset about it.

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Dorkwin, What else do you need? They've given you like 10 sites.

A good place to start, however, may be to actually learn to program.



Quote: "You say that no matter what I post. Im simply stating the obvious, no need to get all upset about it."


That's because that's how you've always posted, ever since you got banned, the third time.


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You made me cry..... I WILL FIND YOU AND CUT OFF YOUR FINGERS! YOU CAN NOT HIDE FROM ME!!!!

Cheers

PS. I agree with Jimmy, leys is kinda noobish. Wasn't he some other noobs "brother"?

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Jimmy pwned Leys!

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God, That image is so useful...


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Quote: "Wasn't he some other noobs "brother"?
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I have a brother, but he lives like 70miles away from me, and never uses a computer.

Quote: "http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8590/leys2ln.jpg"

You really need to grow up a little bit.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, whoever made that picture rules.


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Me...

But sshhhsh...


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Whoever made those Katie Holmes banners really needs to stop living in his own imaginary little world.

And yes, the pwned picture is awsome as usual.

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Quote: " Dorkwin, What else do you need? They've given you like 10 sites."

i was trying to change the subject actually

Quote: "You really need to grow up a little bit."

hrm, I'll find the post that you posted something just like that...just yesterday or the day before if i remember correctly

Quote: "the pwned picture is awsome as usual."

kinda got old forever ago...you know, after the first one posted maybe

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Quote: "hrm, I'll find the post that you posted something just like that...just yesterday or the day before if i remember correctly
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I post for revenge, not simply to be...like that.

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Quote: "I post for revenge, not simply to be...like that."

umm...right....

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Oh no! not... posts! You seem not to know that your just digging your own grave.

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Quote: "just digging your own grave."


I think i see a death threat.

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Yes, that's what he meant. Yep, you're an idiot. Here, let me help you with the grave. Ooohh, this soil breaks up nicely. It'll work goooood.


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Well, i don't recall seing that...just the part about the grave.

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That's not a death threat! That's a saying you imbicile. The little bit of respect I had for you has just taken a plummet.

Just so you don't do this again, I'm going to teach you.

Examples:


saying:"What goes around comes around"

death threat:"I will burn your eyes out and then drown you in your own urine"

saying:"You can't make something from nothing"

death threat:"I will chop you into a million peices, starting with your d!ck."

saying:"Give a man fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll eat forever"

death threat:"You'll be sleepin' wit' da fishes"

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Enlightening

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Enlightening total darkness is not very difficult. Try not to give Manticore too much credit.


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Quote: "Enlightening total darkness is not very difficult."
Good point

Quote: "Try not to give Manticore too much credit."
He's just doing it because he loves me.

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Quote: "Whoever made those Katie Holmes banners really needs to stop living in his own imaginary little world."


Ow.


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