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Mnemonix
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 16:55
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Hey, me and a couple of other forum members have started work on a book which mainly describes how to create multiplayer games with DBP. Here are some of the things it will cover.

How to make a network plugin for DBP
How to make peer to peer multiplayer applications
How to make client/server multiplayer applications
How to create the server software

We will be discussing theory as well as practical and when the book is completed we will hopefully be self publishing. It would be quite a useful book for somebody who is planning to create the next great MMORPG but has no idea how to, or somebody who wants to make any kind of online game.

Suggestions/Opinions below. Thanks.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 18:46
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LOTS and LOTS of example code

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 18:55
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Way ahead of you there Joel.

By the way, slightly off topic, we are thinking of a price from our storefront. Supposing the book was of high quality and with a relatively large amount of content, we would put the price @ $25.
$25 is adequate because there is no shipping fee with a book of this price (Unless you order more than 4 copies).

Feedback welcome. Nothing is decided yet.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 19:01 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2005 19:02
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how far into this book are you?

$25 is fine...but putting a price tag on a book that is not close to being finished, is kinda like posting for a team request without screen shots

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 19:05
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Yes I understand how that comes across, its just that we have been researching how we can best successfully self publish the book. We will look into more possibilities before the book goes on sale.

AND THE BOOK WILL BE COMPLETED OR MY NAME ISNT JEFFERY BOBSON GREEN!

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Quote: "
AND THE BOOK WILL BE COMPLETED OR MY NAME ISNT JEFFERY BOBSON GREEN!"

says the n00b to the mod

jk Mnem, i'm just trying to give you a hard time

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 20:07
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if you give me a hard time the daleks will give you a hard time.

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 21:03
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Make sure you include working demos of everything.

And don't let Benjamin write anything. He's a Class A slacker.


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Mnemonix
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2005 21:17
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Too late, I already did

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Here's a few thoughts:

-Technical info like how many players for what bandwidth
-Max/optimum packet sizes based on bandwidth and players
-Potential lag based on where your players are, how to deal with it
-How to deal with dropped players, players disappearing etc.
-How to deal with drop in bandwidth due to network traffic
-Firewall/router considerations
-How to build/run your initial connection chatroom style thing
-How to handle open and closed games
-How to deal with different pings across your players and varying lag times
-Syncronisation
-How to deal with lost/dropped packets (programmer is expecting data that never arrives)
-Predictive motion (coding so objects/bullets etc. are predicting what may come in delayed packet data).

That's all I can think of for now. Hope that helps a little.

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Mnemonix
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This is all important info Fallout. Thanks for the feedback

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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How to make a network plugin for DBP"


will this be a "Talk to me like a 4yr old who doesnt even know c++ [or whatever language it is it'll be made in]" or will we need to know the language first?

cos if theres one thing i hate most...

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We will be describing the theory and the algorithms used. As much as we hate to do it this way, you will need to know c++ to be able to make the plugin (or copy the sourcecode).

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Sounds good

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Posted: 23rd Aug 2005 23:29
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I got a call from a mad friend of mine after our conversation, Mnem. He had this great idea for a web site...book publishing

I broke it to him gently that it had already been thought of.

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2005 23:32
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Haha, poor bloke.

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Quote: "will this be a "Talk to me like a 4yr old who doesnt even know c++ [or whatever language it is it'll be made in]" or will we need to know the language first?"

You'll have to already know C++, but it teaches you how to use Winsock. We are providing a link to a compiled version of the plugin for people who don't know C++ , so they can still learn the techniques and methods discussed in other sections.

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