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Ad87am
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I am going to start a project which involves a Jet Fighter (Harrier), I am going to start modeling my work now, the only thing is that I am not sure how would I do the Levels. Any one got any ideas of can give a little help. Thanks

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If they are basic levels, you could use Deled Lite...
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I am using 3D Studio Max 7, actually modeling the level is not a problem, its how to make it. I want the jet fighter to be on the bottom of the screen in 3rd person view, or 1st person view, but How do i go abouts making the level? The map would have to be very large to fly in, and im not sure what to do.

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Posted: 26th Aug 2005 21:58
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A matrix would probably be better for what you are wanting to do or a large terrain and advanced terrain plugin if using dbp...
Look into some of the terrain threads on the forum and you might find what you are looking for...

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What is involved in a Plugin? I have no idea and i am useing dbp

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in short, a plugin is a program that is written to work in conjunction with an existing program; whereas the advance terrain plugin was written to assist DBP programmers create terrain without the hassle of coding every minute detail....

I believe you can find it in one of the newsletters If not posted somewhere here on the boards...
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Posted: 26th Aug 2005 23:11
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Ok, thanks, but i still have to make my own map?

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Ad87am
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any1 got any good pics of a harrier jump jet? i wanna model one but cant find a good front pic

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Posted: 27th Aug 2005 00:38
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Propably this one helps you.

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Posted: 27th Aug 2005 00:41
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I've found another two. Maybe these are better

http://home.hetnet.nl/~jp1508/pictures-3/black-harrier-front.jpg

http://www.allwoodwings.com/1-MilitaryPlanes/IMAGES-MilitaryPlanes/Harrier,GR3,RAF,front.jpg
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lol, i got that one, u look for it on google images? It dont work in the backgorund for some reason

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ahaa!! Found a greate one!!!!
http://www.deamons.3d.pl/schematy/planes/mcdonnel-douglas-av-8b-harrier-2.gif Thanks for the help guys. How many polys do you think i should keep too, this is going ot be the main player. I want to make it look good.

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Oh, yea I searched for it on google images.
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Hi, can someone help me plz, I have had an attempt to make a Harrier Jump Jet and its a bit screwed up and needs a bit of work on it still, but i was wondering if there was a way to merge objects together. Like if i had a box and another box ontop of it, can i somehow make thoes 2 boxes into one? I am useing 3ds Max 7

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well theres 2 ways, either select your objects then group/group, or to merge them into one object make sure your objects are in editable mesh then select an object click and attach then click all the objects you wish to be attached to it or click on attach list if you have alot.

you could also weld vertexes together but if your making a plane its best to try and make it fromone peice maybe starting from a cylinder since there round.


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Is there a way to get rid of the lines between the cockpit and lower body?

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thats quite a good model u got going on there. a few tweeks here and there and i think it will be really impressive. would love to see it textured.

how many pollys does it have? i'd like to see the wire frame for it so we can advise u where u could take some pollys out and not loose any of the shape.

i've added a render of an aircraft i been working on. not done anything to it for a while now to it but it might give u some idea i hope.

its not a harrier its a BF109 but as i said its might give u some insite

p.s. its only got 87 pollys if i remeber right

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no chance thats 87 polys :p


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The poly count is rather high, i still need to adjust it. Its 14184 but i can take alot of them out. The 3DS file is attached if you want to have a look.

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sorry about the polly count. missed out a number lol

its 876 pollys. i think i'll look at the 3ds file. might be able to help u out. gives me summat new to try

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Can someone help me make a level, I know its asking a bit much but all I need is the basics so that i can muck around with it to get what i need. I Need to create a Matrix so that it never ends. Or is it possible to make a 3D map in 3ds max and then just loop it so it looks like there is a long terrain? That would be much easier if that could be done.

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Is there a way to get rid of unwanted vertex's?

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yeah, select the vertexs and delete them... within the right mouse buttom menu is the option to REMOVE.
Doubt you can make an endless terrain in 3dsmax, but there is an example of how to do so in DbPro examples.
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Posted: 31st Aug 2005 14:17 Edited at: 31st Aug 2005 14:32
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Take a look at that:

http://www.suurland.com/blueprint_x.php?image=http://www.suurland-media.com/blueprints/fighters_jet/harrier_gr7.gif&id=7216


http://www.suurland.com/blueprint_x.php?image=http://www.suurland-media.com/blueprints/fighters_jet/bae-harrier.gif&id=7002


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Wow! thoes blue prints are really good, i searched everywhere for ones like them! Thanks for that, im going to make another one now.

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my internets being awful otherwise i would have got you the blueprint but heres a good site with loads http://blueprints.onnovanbraam.com/


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hey people, wot do you think of my NEW Harrier, thanks to some new blue prints and a bit of savy, i managed to whip this up in a few hours, only 480 polys too. Still need to put the guns, missiles, flaps, and other stuff on it and texture it.

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i can safly say welldone doesnt it help with blueprints by the way its not i dont believe you but is that reall 480 polies sorry if ive affended you but it looks slightly more closer to 800 plus

hey if not well done


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yes it is 480 polyies, It will be near 1000 polys when I am finished with it tho.

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Ad87am

Leave out small details, for example the little inlets on the side of the intake, leave that up to the texturing, don't model them.

For games you will need to probably make your model a bit more angular, I know it looks nice when rendered with smooth edges, but for games, you can get away with a lot less. After all, it will be moving in a game and you'll most only view it from a particular angle.

Just some thoughts

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well in games you need to measure in tri`s so its possible your model is 480polygons but not tri`s

and the model is a major improvement from the previous atempt


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So I shouldnt use any smoothing on it, I was trying to find a way to mesh smooth it but it was screwing up, it went to thin. so do you think i should leave out the guns and missiles?

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well it goes thinner if you meshsmooth using nurms, try classic output that maybe more usefull, but dont meshsmooth it for an ingame mesh! the polycount will simply go too high.


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Yeh i noticed, it jumps to about 4000, but I think it looks better with out the mesh smooth, i might just smooth the turbines a bit and thats it. Next step is to make a Matrix, I have no idea how to make one! lol

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Hey people, ive just done the weapons for my Harrier and im not sure what looks better. Any ideas?

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or---

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or the one i think looks best---

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#looking Good! Yeh i think the last one looks the best.


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And the Final product!

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Great job Ad87am.

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Thanks, im having a problem getting the textures to workin DBP. Can any1 help?

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