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Timber Wolf
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Posted: 23rd Oct 2005 22:07 Edited at: 23rd Oct 2005 22:25
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Here are a few pics of some of my 3d models. I mostly specialise in weaponry but can do other things too.






I have a website where I put pics of all my work (Timber3d.com). I try to update weekly at minimum, but I've got alot going on and get minimum modeling time. I use 3ds max 7


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Maps
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Nice weapons
how many polygons ?
could we see the wireframes ?
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Really nice
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Polies are as follow

M4 - 3000
M16 - 2500
M249 - 3000
Tower - 300

The guns could be lower poly, but they have some barrel details and other uneeded things. Heres some of the wires






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@Ice cube mmmkay


Noooo!!! NOT GUNS NOT MORE Bloody guns, actually we haven't seen any for a while, and they are good, so I won't run into the wall screeming guns repeatedly..

Anyway, nice and smooth models you got there, I like em

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Yeah amazing models, but 3k polygons, argh!
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I'm not experienced with Dark Basics abilities to handle 3k objects, but if you were to mod a present game such as BF2, they could more then handle it as first person models. A good third person model can be acheived merely by replacing the present cylinders with 6 sided cylinders, rather then the 10-12 sided ones present right now, and replacing the rest of the body with objects that are closer to the original primitive, and getting rid of the real tiny details


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Those are nice gunz....I know Lukas was looking for some weapons for his Zombie game maybe you could donate some killing tools to him....
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3k polies for a gun is fine....if its the one on your screen. Entity guns that enemies have that you dont see close up are usually much lower. But look at it this way. 3k polies for your RPG's main character is reasonable, correct? Now think about the 3k poly gun as your main character The weapon close on screen can be 3k polies, as long as 'entity' guns are lower poly - will run great and still look good


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Immpressive would you be looking for a project??

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Guh! - 3000 polies!

None of those guns look like 3000 polygons, I'm guessing theres a lot of miniscule detail that'll never be seen.

For example, never put a lot of polygons on handles, you won't see it anyway so it could just be a box.

The actual mesh construction is great, but unfortunately guns need to be low polygon, a lot of detail needs to be handled with clever texturing, and 3000 polygons is about 2000 too much.

Texturing should be the next stage, but it's quite fun to texture weapons, you really learn to love your firepower when you make them yourself - texturing is a big part of the fun when guns are concearned because there's such a massive resource of images etc online.


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Looking at the screens you can se that the gun has alot more details then can be seen as a third person, so simply reduce them, and take away those little cuts into parts like the iron sites. Otherwise as RPGamer said, its a perfectly acceptable as a first person weapon. Those details will make the game seem more real. If your real picky, you can delete the stock if the programmer doesn't plan on adding in some animation that would show it (example: rifle slap) or even delete all the faces on the opposite side of the gun.

I've skinned 2 objects myself so far. While I'm fine at applying the skin, its making the skin that I need practice in


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oh van allways fussy about your lowpoly meshes, if you made hl2 everything would be boxes :p or maybe triangle based pyramids to save polys.

the guns do look nice, but as said above you did seem to put more detail in the bits you dont see, and you could optimize bits that are just extruded, like the top part of the stock on the m16 you could weld alot of those wasted verts at the top same for the handles and the frame.

and are you going to texture these models?


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DarkCoder, dude, 3000 polygons for an M16 and you don't see how that's overkill?

None of the guns I've made have been over 1000 polygons, but they are all textured, I just think it's about time we seen some textured guns here - all we ever see are countless untextured M-whatevers at uselss poly counts. It would be nice to see some useful weapon packs for FPSC or something like that. The best way to maintain polycounts is to stay low, and that's clearly not what's happening.

But your right, I should stop telling people that 3000 polys is too much, I mean I'm assuming the guns are for DBPro, silly me .


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Man, I love these models.

Where have you learned modelling like that?
Have you used any tutorials?
You use box modelling, don't you?

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I agree with van, someone helping me was fretting that the castle model he made was about 1000 polys

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Those models are excelent. Well done.


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I understand what your getting at van. I guess these models may be too high for DB as is. But, I would like you to know they were all originally intended for one modding comunity or another (BF2 for instant), though none of those projects took off. I'll go over my M16 today and show you that I can be under 1000


not a great skin, only 256x256 and made from cutouts on a picture. I'm not good at making skins. Now if I took those barrel cuts off, and all those tiny little addons, it could easily be 1000-1500 and look the same.

This on the other hand was never intended for games, skinned or not



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Are you using 3DS Max?


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Quote: "I use 3ds max 7"


Yes he is.

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how much you betting?

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Quote: "I use 3ds max 7"





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where did it say that? oops sorry for missing that


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Can I have the concrete bridge?

I ALWAYS have flame proof jacket...just in case...and a shotgun. If you want any, just ask!

We are all nice,except for that one who's name starts in a m and ends in erranvo.
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Heres my M16 at 1200 polies. replaced cylinders with 6-8 sided ones, reduced magazine to a 2 segment peice rather than 6, reduced some other segment amounts. was able to keep iron site details, though if I needed to recduce the detail in that too, I could reduce it to under 1000.



I've uploaded the bridge, have fun. If you want to reduce it more then you can make the post cubes instead of the 5 sided cylinders they are now. saved it as a 3ds as I don't know what you use. Don't anybody ask for anything else now , bridge is ok because I don't plan on using it for one thing or another.


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Looks cool Timber - good to see you can do low poly and texture too - any other plans for your models?


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Thanks! I'll probably use it for a place holder in this game. And not in the real thing.

I ALWAYS have flame proof jacket...just in case...and a shotgun. If you want any, just ask!

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nice... more more...

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@Timber Wolf, Hey ive got one question, how did you do the soft shadows in your 1st render? (I use the latest verson of max.)

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@Van, No real plans, So far what I've made has been based on what I wanted to make. Going to try and practice characters though.

@Professor

To get a nice shadow, I make a small box below my object, and place two light sources. A sky light set to cast shadow with 1.0 intensity, and a target spot set to cast shadow at 0.3 to 0.4 intensity


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Alright ill give it a try, Thanks! .

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Timber...1200 pollies for that? That only needs to be about 600 max!
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Your so good I hate you.

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@ Xeno, lmao

@ snipa, I don't see how you can do that in 600 polies. This gun still retains a good deal of detail. I don't have a screen shot right now, but those iron sites are usable. The body/handle/rear sites are all one peice of a mesh thats been extruded. There are no boxes in there. I'll get some goot close ups for you tomorrow.


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you can do a relatively high detailed face for 600 polies, surely a gun could stay in that boundry if you wanna use it for a game

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You could do that in 600 pollies and still retain working Iron sights. You've just got to learn where to use your polygons.
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I'm sure an M16 could be acheived at 600, just not with the details I have



you can't do that on a 600 poly gun unless you ripped all the other details away



that peice is 100 polies. If I removed the cuts, it would be 20 max, but I like details. so sue me.

Now, I'm sure there are things I can do to optimize my gun and maybe bring it down to 1000, but 600 just won't look very good first person


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Quote: "so sue me."


Excellent, so how good is your lawyer?

Well if its watcha like, tell everyone to shut their pie hole, I'm addicted to high poly too

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well if you look at the front ironsight you can easily cut the polycount in half and make it look identical


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