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DLL Talk / Microsoft Visal C++ Express 2005

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Kenjar
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Posted: 25th Nov 2005 23:44
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Hi all. I've just heard that MS are giving away express versions of their popular visual studio software. Anyway my question is, can Visual C++ 2005 express be used to write DLL's for DarkBASIC Pro? I'm very new too all of this, and need to make sure that I'm using the correct language or I'm just wasting my time learning it.


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It appears the DLL option is missing, so you may not be able to.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:38
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Also, if you read the small print, the free beta versions will stop working fully sometime next year. Which portions will deactivate themselves I don't know, but you can bet it will be the compiler.


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 20:17
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Don't know anything about the 'beta' versions, but express will work forever as long as it's registered. The free download however will be stopped in a years time.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 21:38
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No you can't, thats a removed feature of the Express versions

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Posted: 28th Nov 2005 07:55
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I have made a DLL whit Visual Studio 2005 Express.
First, you need to install the Microsoft Platform Software Development Kit (SDK).
See this instrucctions:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/usingpsdk/
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Posted: 28th Nov 2005 09:41
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How do you create a DLL then?

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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 14:22
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You can make DLLs in MSVC2005 Express beta 2, haven't tried the latest one though.
Click on New project, select Console App, click "Next" (rather than Finish) and then a few options will show up, "DLL project" being one of them.

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Ooh, thats why I was having trouble - the Express version wont create DLL's (the option is greyed out).

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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 15:35
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When you install correctly the Microsoft Platform Software Development Kit (SDK), you can create a DLL as TKF15H said, but this DLL dont work correctly whit DBP.

I recommend open the TESTCOMMANDS VC6 proyect that come whit DarkBasicPro and convert to MSVS 2005 Express.
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Ah - so the DLL creation needs some part of the PSDK then - do you know which part - got most of it installed...

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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 18:20
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I install all, from this installer.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A55B6B43-E24F-4EA3-A93E-40C0EC4F68E5&displaylang=en
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Unfortunately I dont have enough disk space for everything, on the machine that has 2005...

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Is a lot of Space.
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Posted: 8th Dec 2005 00:38
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How big is your hardrive I am greatest fan? I'm downloading the Sdk right now, but I'm only half way through my first c++ book (C++ Primer 4th edition) so I probably won't know enough c++ yet .


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There is no make DLL project for VS2005 that I know of. But to make a DLL you need to specify that in your project properties. Start with an empty project and change the configuration type from .exe to .dll. Press ALT+F7 to get the properties window, and then press configuration properties.
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Its a 9 GB hard drive (yes, it really is small)...

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DLLs can be made if config files are modified.

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in my copy of C++ VS2005 express, you say new project, CLR -> Class library.

Will those libraries not work with DBP?

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 17:28 Edited at: 14th Dec 2005 17:30
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i'm sure a class lib is a .net dll - the clr part makes me think that as the common language runtime is a .net thing - in case you didn't know, .net dlls won't work with dbpro, you need to use unmanaged dlls


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Posted: 19th Dec 2005 23:07
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I've used MSVC2005 to make DBP plugins before, they work fine... if you manage to enable the DLL option. Had to edit one of the configuration files to do that, I think. Don't remember anymore.

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You can follow the steps here to enable Win32 application building (including DLLs).
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Does the compiler support making dll's because im using an alternative ide(codeblocks) which is fully compatable with the toolkit and can detect msvc as it but will it all work right?

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Posted: 8th Mar 2006 17:08 Edited at: 9th Mar 2006 22:39
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I'm using VS Express to create DBP dlls. It's working so far (although I am having some trouble with strings. *EDIT* I will get there though. I'm new to all this DLL stuff, although I am quite fluent in C++.

EDIT: I AM having trouble with Express. I'm sure it's the complete lack of MFC that is causing my problems. (Although I guess I don't really NEED MFC).

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