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FPSC Classic Product Chat / [LOCKED] What Is Going On Around Here?

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SkyCubes
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 04:46
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You know, this place is really turning into some kind of bizzaro world. I'm sorry but it's not ok to curse at someone on the forum, but it's ok to post links to sites that clearly promote, embrace, or otherwise sypathize with pornography and piracy?(Rastaworld) It's not ok to post team requests, but it's ok to post links to graphic degregation of persons with disabilities?(Xilch)


After reviewing the AUP, clearly "RastaWorld" violates at least 2 of the rules:

Quote: "Do not post links to illegal software sites"

Quote: "Do not post anything considered "adult" material"


I thought this forum was intended for FPSC users to help, share, discuss FPSC releated issues. Maybe I was wrong.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 04:48
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whats wrong with team requests?

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SkyCubes
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 04:55
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I have no idea and I really don't care. I was just using that as example of the bizzare "allowable" behavior going on.

Oh, and before I get flamed for this thread, I'm in no way, shape, or form trying to be a morality police here. I couldn't give a rat's ass what you do with your personal life, time, or site. I'm simply trying to figure out why something as silly as losing your temper and cussing out other forum members can get you banned, while another person can encourage minors to post their real pictures or yet another person can post damn near soft-porn and piracy news feeds and nothing happens. It just seems very bizzare to me.

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=ChrisB=
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 04:59
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I agree with you SkyCubes. This place is going to the dogs!

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RastaMan
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 05:22
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Simply put, "get a life" skycubes...

A. I make fpspack available to anyone that wants to use it.
B. What I put on my site is at my discretion, not yours. I pay for my hosting, not you.
C. Piracy? Why? For carring XML newsfeed of the leading site devoted to DVD industry changes? I don't think so. You may use it for piracy purposes, but unlike you, I choose to read and stay ahead of the game. In my profession its called "job awareness".
D. Soft Porn? Seems like the television networks beat me to that. They show more LEWD images on one sit-com than I show on my entire site.

Comes down to... Don't like it? Then surf elsewhere. Bizzare or not, its simply one persons opinion. But you know what they say. Opinions are like arse holes, everyones got one.


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SkyCubes
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 05:30 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 05:32
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Rastaman,

You've presented me with an interesting dilemma. On one hand, I could respond to your drivel with a well deserved, "kiss my ass f&%kbag", in which case I'd surely be banned. Or, I could create my own website, post my reply there along with some carefully placed RSS feeds to pirate sites and porno, then come back to the forum and post a link to my site.

Decisions, decisions...

Oopps, I need to keep this on topic or the thread may get locked. Back to my original question: Why all the bizzarness on the forum? Isn't this supposed to be about FPSC?

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 05:42
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Details, details.... The "oh holy of whats right and what wrong" strikes again.

A possible Merrvano pattern here? Most obvious this has nothing to do with FPSC and again, just another voice in the herd wanting to be heard. Preach on brotha. Preach on.

Glad to see that the TGC forums are your 'personal' playground. Otherwise, what else would you do? Save the world from mis-spelled posts.

But seriously, I have had a few to drink at the time of this post. What real relevance does this have to TGC? A download from a site that has a few attractive women and an XML newsfeed from a DVD/CD news site? Come-on.. You need to do better than that. It appears to be much mis-guided anger toward something else. Also its funny that it is ONLY you that seems intimidated.

No one said "Click On Hot or Not for best time on the net!"! Simply visit the downloads section and get the FREE program.. That is unless you more comfortable paying for it. That surely can be arranged.


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 06:00
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I'm sorry Rastaman, but I'm gonna have to put in my 2 cents here.

I just can't find it in me to give you (bar belly) a shot up on the hot meter; but the other chicks definately get thumbs up from me.

If it wasn't for this thread, I wouldn't have known about that site of yours; thanks Skycubes

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 06:31 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 06:34
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Personally speaking and thats just what it is - I found nothing that I would see as being even slightly offensive or unethical to reasonable, moderate persons at the said web site.

As to whats going on? Not quite sure what bizzare would describe at the forum but I think I get the general point.....

In my opinion, probably incorrectly - I have said this before and as usual most of the forum threads are constantly taken up by the same repeated material and questions - so I will say again - there is just not enough serious progress in gamemaking going on by users of FPSC for reasons that I wont go into as it would take to long (FPSC product is in a state of Limbo enough said) that users have nothing better to discuss. No exciting projects - no show stopping announcements - from anyone?

When theres some great news forthcoming regarding making games from any source TGC or developers - if and when users are making progress in making great games - there will be much constructive stuff to talk about and users wont have so much time talking about nothing but talking real gamemaking. They will need to be spending time developing and enjoying it too much to be seen around here so frequently - that clearly is not the case.

Currently I do not believe that FPSC as a product will allow that to happen (too many problems - not enough progress in development)and perhaps it never will in which case the scenario will continue.

Serious gamemaking and gamemaking attitudes will hopefuuly prevail -

One day.

Anyway like I said thats my opinion and being just more waffle to fill the board I should dissapear now and will.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 12:11 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 12:18
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Honestly... this is discusting! SkyCubes.. before you post unqualified crap like this, please inform yourself about the term "pornographic"! I hate when people insult others about things they do not even know or understand!!
I couldn't find one pronographic image on rastaworld
Just don't click on the hot-or-not link to avoid getting "terrorized" by porn (how you obviously call these pictures... that are not even full nude....)
But let me guess.. you rather crawled through all the pics to collect non-existing evidence of mass-porn than simply not clicking on the link!?

And as you posted the "AUP" so nicely....
a) Rastaworld can definately not be concidered as an "illegal software site"
b) I never saw Rastaman posting any pornographic pics here (that's what meant by this sentence..... and not what comes up when visiting any links here.... so Rastaman could even run a pronsite and would still be in compliance with the rules as you stated 'em here!

Gosh... get a clue....
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 15:15 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 15:21
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one phrase brings to mind report abuse button thats why its there

personally i support rastaman as i think he has made a cracking program top notch

and if he wants to post pictures of naked kangroos in suggestive poses on his site i aint complaining as its his site and he does some serious cool work on protecting all are hardwork from the bogey man

but if you guys decided otherwise press the report abuse button

and let tgc decide

anyway thats my two cents

peace out

and let just all get along lol
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:21
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Quote: "Honestly... this is discusting!"


LMAO! I was right! This is bizzaro world. Everything is fricking backwards. I comment on the
absolute lack of responsibility by a couple of forum users and yet I'm the disgusting one?

I took a look at your image gallery, Rasta. I'm assuming those "family photos" are images of your daughters? I wonder how you would feel about logging into a site one night and seeing your daughters in 'Hot or Not' poll? Jesus, don't even respond to that question, I'm afraid of what your answer would be. (skycubes shivers and feels nauseous)

And for the record, let's follow the logic on the RSS feed for a moment, shall we? You say that you are simply keeping up on the news for "professional" reasons. Hmm, interesting. The only way you can keep up on the news is to look at your own site? You don't have personal access to the After Dawn site? Right.

Back to the logic...

Of all the possible RSS feeds out there, you have one that specifically addresses software, audio, and video piracy. Anyone who has live feeds or links to the likes of Kaaza and BitTorrent are using Kaaza and BitTorrent. Anyone using them also condones them. Anyone who condones them must by necessity condone the downloading of FPSC from Kaaza or other P2P services. Which of course, brings us right back to the AUP of this forum.

But I'm the disgusting one. LOL!

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SkyCubes
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 19:11
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crow34,

Thank you and you're absolutely right. I've reported the thread and site using the abusive post link. Should've done that to begin with, so my bad there. It's TGC's forum and they will take the report and either do something about it or do nothing. Either way, it's their decision. Consider the subject dropped then.

Rasta,

One last thing to consider before I drop this issue. I'd like to encourage you to step back from everything for a moment and seriously consider this: Would your site and product be any less effective, popular, or helpful to the FPSC community without the adult content (by TGC AUP definition) and the RSS feeds about Kaaza and BitTorrent? Responsible behavior or indulgence.


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Acualy SkyCubes, I think that your over reacting to nothing. If you take a look outside your house (depending where you live) you may find that rastaworld is very mild. Go into other peoples houses? Oh god, you'll be thanking Rastaman for such mildness.

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Hey.... why not shut down the whole internet.... Cause at the end this is the source of all evil.
If you can't stand some stupid links on "serious" websites, the internet is definately not the right place for you!
I wonder if you don't have anything better to do than complaining about such worthless stuff!?.... but hey... I obviously don't have anything better to do, too.... as poting replies to such useless stuff is pretty "whack", too.
Actually, I think you should spend some more time browsing the internet, to get a clue of "online reality"... and then you only have two options left.... go berserk about every unholy thing you'll see (and you'll see plenty of it)... or you sit back and relax...
Man.. this is year 2005.. the internet in it's current form is up for like 10 years.... quiet to late to complain about some questionable rss feds or other "bad" stuff.... The real world is out there.. not just for today!
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 20:34
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Oohhh kay then!

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 21:21 Edited at: 27th Nov 2005 01:03
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Rastaman... love the site!!! Don't change a thing!!! I found the images quite tasteful.


skycubes... stop hating... are you a communist? why tell people what they can and can't do... you don't like it don't do it...

any how i don't belive the forums have gone to the "dogs" it's still a great resource!!!
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Quote: "I found nothing that I would see as being even slightly offensive or unethical to reasonable, moderate persons at the said web site.
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What ethics system are you useing to determine that there was nothing "unethical" on the said site? I find such things as Rastaman placed on his website as disgusting. However, I don't have to go to his website if I don't like it either. I already can get the updates to FPSPack by clicking the "update" button in the program. That is HIS website, why are we talking about it? We should be discussing FPSC here.

NOTE: the above paraghraph was not pointed directly at Uman, I simply used his quote.

Quote: "while another person can encourage minors to post their real pictures"


Wait a second, how would I know that they were a minor unless they gave out their age? I encouraged the members of TGC's FPSC boards to post their pictures. I hav no idea how old they are. lets take you for example Skycubes. I know you're a teacher, I know you have a special edu's license. So I'm guessing your... oh, probably in your thirtys. Aoneweb is probably about the same. Same with Xilch. I believe =ChrisB= is 16-17, but I wouldn't have known that from his posts. In fact, look at Jordan Siddall, I was guessing he was 25-35, then I found out he was around the age of =ChrisB=.

I actually thought about posting picures as a way to get people familiar with everyone, I thought that in the long run it would help calm down some of the arguments.

Being a Christian, I'm not perticularly pleased that Rastaman has some inopropriate things on his site, however, I am not him, he has free will, and unless someone can convince him to take those down, he has the right to keep the images on. I doubt you can change his mind by yelling at him.
Instead of condemming everyone saying that we're going to destroy the forums (which many people are guilty of), why don't you purpose some ways to fix it? Then set an example by actually following through with your plan?

When FPSC gets good enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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I like Rasta's site. I don't think it's disgusting, if you don't like it don't go there!!!
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Quote: "if you don't like it don't go there!!!"


True mole logic (a Redwall thing)

When FPSC gets good enough, lets make a Redwall game!

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OMG!! I will quickly revamp my site, remove RSS and promptly delete all my images! SkyCube is offended! Oh my, we simple can not have this. I shall alert others to take down such content before SkyCube one day runs across their site. What have we done?? SHAME SHAME!! I shall close my site instantly!!!

. . . not . . .

LOL, I think SkyCube is just jealious. His site has been "Under Construction" for months. Ah well, you can't please them all! Glad to find out now he was not one of them.


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*long heavy sigh*

Like I said…bizarre.

I guess if someone speaks up and points out inconsistencies in forum moderation and suggests that the “grown-ups” exercise some measure of restraint and responsibility to the broader forum demographic that they are “haters” and “morality police” with “no life”.

And yes, I do understand that the Internet is a big place with lots of “bad” things lurking around. Believe me, I’ve was doing this long before most of the users here had their balls drop down out of their abdomens. Should I interpret that since the young people here can, in 3 clicks, be to sites containing much worse that we throw responsibility out the damn window and subscribe to a “if we can’t bet em, join em” philosophy?

Like I said before, exercising a little restraint and responsibility would have zero impact on the usefulness of your FPS Pack tool or the numbers of visitors to your site.


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Quote: "What ethics system are you useing to determine that there was nothing "unethical" on the said site?"


Someone asked.

Answer = mine.

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I have to admit you have all handled sky cube opinion very Immaturely he is simply talking about whats he thinks is an issue on this forum sure its up for discussion and you dnot have to agree heck i dont agree i dont see anything wrong with rastas site but skycubes feels that it has broken a forum rule so he is just speaking up how he feels which isnt a crime yet i do feel his use of words such as pornographic may be alittle extreme but like a say everyone is entitled to there opinion without being mocked lets not forget that and that respect for each other builds a community

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We have these buttons now for reporting when a user steps out of line, please use this feature instead of 'calling-out' a user like this.

This section of the forum is like a freakin nursery - and it's you lot who're responsible for it, not the moderators. Maybe one day you'll all learn that forums don't get better by themselves, they need a good community and that's what's sorely lacking in FPSC users.


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