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s0l1dsnak3123
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Posted: 1st Dec 2005 21:45
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Please could someone tell me how i can bend the front pane of glass on my first model. All help will be appreciated. I am usin Wings 3d v0.98.32a Thanks

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Mucky Muck Ninja
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Posted: 1st Dec 2005 22:11
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Please post pictures of what you are talking about. Not all of us have wings.

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Posted: 1st Dec 2005 22:24
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could you subdivide and move the verts
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Ok, now that ive looked at it, I am really not sure what you did. The faces are completely messed up. In Wings can you just delete those top faces and remake them differently?

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s0l1dsnak3123
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Posted: 2nd Dec 2005 22:53 Edited at: 2nd Dec 2005 23:03
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Im a bit of a newbie in 3d model making but i am sure that you'll have to download wings 3d in order to see it the way I did. (I downloaded some models yesterday and imported them on wings and it looked horrible). As for screenies I have some Below:



** update ** I found out what was wrong (well actually I didnt but I did kinda fix it). I have uploaded a new version so it should look better now (I hope ).
Quote: "Ok, now that ive looked at it, I am really not sure what you did. The faces are completely messed up. In Wings can you just delete those top faces and remake them differently?
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well you can hide them. I tried hiding the sheet of glass and putting a cylinder in it's place, but the cylinder is to large at the bottom and it looks really rubbish.


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2005 02:47
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jeeze dont attach huge bmp`s took me like 1 min to load the image


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i dont understand... what are we looking at in that first picture?

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Quote: "i dont understand... what are we looking at in that first picture?"

You are looking at the window that I was talking about. It's flat. What Im wondering is how can I turn it into a bent pane of glass. Yes, I know it looks weird but because I clicked on something while I was finishing off the model that you see in the picture. I clicked on undo but it crashed instead. (don't ask - I don't have a clue why)I tried to fix it (cannot remember how - it was over a week ago) and that is what it ended up like.
Quote: "jeeze dont attach huge bmp`s took me like 1 min to load the image "

sorry dark coder - I don't know how I can compress those files. Any Ideas would be apppreciated.

Finally. If anybody has some Ideas to what I could do to improve the model please tell me - I'd love to know!!!


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2005 18:01 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2005 18:05
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i think he means save them as jpegs



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Posted: 3rd Dec 2005 18:02 Edited at: 3rd Dec 2005 18:07
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Well, to compress your image, i would save it as a jpeg. They are about 10x smaller in file size. What was a 20mb bmp, can be a 300k jpeg.
As for the model, I would remake the windshield to be more clean. Those faces in the middle are very ugly, just make a new cube, scale it and stuff, then subdivide it so that you have a line of verts going down the middle. Then you can raise those for a nice rounded effect.

EDIT: Lol, 3 posts at the same time.
Also, if you are concered about the image quality of the jpeg, Paint has a crappy exporter so just open it in GIMP and save it as a jpeg with quality at 100.

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um ya you could if you wanted to just open them in paint and save as jpeg. lol

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thanks everyone I'll get to work on what you said right now (5:39pm) I problably won't reply until tomorrow though... but we'll see.


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I have a problem. when trying to delete the offending faces an error occurs:

What do I do now???
p.s. I'm about to give up all hope of making this car.


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2005 19:56
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Can't you just delete the entire windshield object?

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The wind shield object is part of the main body. If I delete that then I'll delete the whole body apart from the axle and wheels. Is there another program that will do the trick?


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Hello???


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Posted: 4th Dec 2005 17:23
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Well I would use blender(link in my sig). Ive seen people do great things with wings but maybe it isnt' for you. Blender has a MUCH faster workflow than most other programs once you get to know the hotkeys and such. In blender you could just select the verts making up the top of the windshield and delete them, then extrude up from the body again to remake it. Im not familiar enough w/ wings to telll you what to do lol.

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can wings just delete verts and or individual polys cause maybe then you can delete the winshield polys then work from there

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Quote: "can wings just delete verts and or individual polys cause maybe then you can delete the winshield polys then work from there"

no but you can Hide them (it didn't work with that weird bit in the middle)
Quote: "Well I would use blender(link in my sig). Ive seen people do great things with wings but maybe it isnt' for you. Blender has a MUCH faster workflow than most other programs once you get to know the hotkeys and such. In blender you could just select the verts making up the top of the windshield and delete them, then extrude up from the body again to remake it. Im not familiar enough w/ wings to telll you what to do lol."

I have blender, but it keeps blinking and is really unstable on my system,so I don't use it at all.


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Do you have the latest version of blender?
A lot of people think of it as it was in the 2.00 stage, which wasn't too good.
If wings can't even delete a poly...i dont' think its someting you should be using lol.

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sorry I havent relpyed in a while, I had an essay that I forgot about .
Ill try blender again, but I'm sure that my computer is too slow for it or something. Thanks for your help, keep it coming.


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sorry i havent posted for a while, I kinda forgot. Anywho I've tried blender (again) but it is exactly the same. Never mind I don't have the will anymore... . If you have anything which could help me Please post as this thread is still open)


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Since you're beginning, heres a tip. Start over. There is nothing more frustrating than fixing something.

I have never used wings, but it seems that it wont let you delete those polys for some reason "-would leave waist" heheh. So, if you're not getting anywhere trying to figure out how to do it, start over. You can leave the body of the car there as a reference to keep the design or just delete it. Then rebuild the body but this time use seperate objects. A box for the base, another box on top of it for the windshield. You have some cyclinders for the jet thingy and you could probably use a couple of boxes for the fin things.

To curve the windshield, segement the box up and adjust the verts, or extrude out from a box and adjust the verts.

ummm. yeah.. the key is to work with seperate primitives to create your object, this way you get a clearer picture and a better feel for shapes AND if you dont like a certain part you can simply delete and not worry about the rest of the object.
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