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3 Dimensional Chat / My latest sword --Lower Poly--

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Insanity Complex
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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 05:05
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Yup. Much lower poly than the previous swords.



File is the sword as a .3ds file.

Your signature has been erased by a mod because the image was half a megabyte in size!! :-P

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JoelJ
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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 07:12
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more like a dagger, but that's pretty nice

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 13:38
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Do you use mesh smoothing and subdivision on the hilt and handle?

It looks like you do, and I'm thinking that's where your poly's come from.

"Mommy - where do poly's come from?"
"From mesh smooth, dear. I'll explain when you're older."

You'd be able to save a tonne of poly's if you didn't use meshsmooth and instead beveled a few edges here and there. Mind you, if you want it to look THAT smooth, then you're stuck with the polys ;D

What kind of sword is it? 1h, 2h, hand and a half, broad, long, short etc?
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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 14:58 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 14:58
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It's a dagger. And I know smooth is adding a lot of polys to it. I manually got rid of about 120 by deleting unneccesary edges. Explain beveling as I've never used it before. Heard of it, but never actually used. I might just make a seperate cylinder for the handle, and play around with it until it looks nice, and then add it to the end of the original model. (I'd connect/merge the verts but Wings wouldn't let me)

[edit] and I wouldnt bother to smooth if the handle wasnt so square...seeing as I started with a square it only makes sense that it is square.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 15:55
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I imported the sword into max and its says 612 tris. hmmmm.

As a game model, the yellow bit (hilt?) as too many polys. Even if you are within your polybudget, you moght want to spread it around a little. I also noticed from the top view. It looks like you made the handle from a cylinder a scaled it to almost, you might have scaled it a little to much as the handle is thinner than the blade or is that the design.

You might want to try out what Tinkergirl said and bevel/chamfer the edges. What this does, in a very loose sense , is it will split up an edge and create a polygon in between. This gives a sharp edge a soft look ie.beveled.

Ok not a clear explanation. I'll throw up some pics if you need. Your're using wings are you?
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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 22:40
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Oops, forgot to view along the y axis to scale the handle and hilt. What I do is build everything off of the blade. I am using Wings though, and pictures of course always help.

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Quote: ""Mommy - where do poly's come from?"
"From mesh smooth, dear. I'll explain when you're older."
"

Lol

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 09:02
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Ok I've never used Wings before. Just gave it a whirl. It works like Nendo, so I could get around a little. I've created a little slideshow just showing a bit of modelling in Wings.
Its in flash format (swf), so you'll need a flash player or flash plugin for your browser (included a html for browser viewing).

Attached download. Zip file is 472kb.

ps. Im not expert, so no crits on the slideshow k.

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Quote: "instead beveled a few edges here and there"

Most 3D modelling programms I have used don't have the bevel feature. I discovered bevel and CSG substract in GTK Radiant.
Of course, I've only tried free and really cheap ones.
I couldn't afford 3DS max...
I use MilkShape3D, the best $25 modeller you can find.

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 21:58 Edited at: 10th Dec 2005 22:11
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UPDATE:



Making new post with downlaod available

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 22:15
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Download

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Posted: 10th Dec 2005 23:19
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sweet. Much cleaner. Better proportions too. Might not need those polys in the middle of the handle. Unless you're gonna do something with them.
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Quote: "Might not need those polys in the middle of the handle."


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Posted: 11th Dec 2005 01:27
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How many polys is it now, altogether?

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Posted: 11th Dec 2005 01:37
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100...it says in the picture

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Dont worry bout it. A matter of choice. Here's a sample of what I would do. Its about the same polycount, just put polys in different places.

I removed the polys in the middle of the handle and the subtle bevel and the end of the handle. I added polys at the ends of the hilt and tip of the sword, just to round it up a little.



The wireframe.
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Posted: 11th Dec 2005 23:55
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I see...

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 03:15
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if your modeling program can weld verts than thats a good way to remove some excess polys

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 14:55
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I know, but I haven't found a way with Wings...

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To sort of weld 2 verts together in wings. - Well, first of, i think the way Wings works is that the object you are modelling needs to maintain its structure as a contiguous mesh. I assume this as I cant find an option to delete a polygon. So you cant say take a cube, then remove the top poly. You can collapse the top poly which then gives you a pyramid...I think.....
So working with that in mind, to weld 2 verts together, they need to share the same edge, thus you would collapse the edge to create a single vert out of the two.

umm yeah somthing like that.
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Posted: 13th Dec 2005 00:09
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How about I just wait until I can get an extra program to import my models to so I can weld verts that way? hmm...

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