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hi,
what is the best modeler for making guns?
what is the best modeler for making characters?

i'm working on the next-gen game, BLUECROSS. basically u blow up robots(motodrones). and it's a real game, like a good 1. shots will be available next month or so.
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Posted: 24th Dec 2005 06:35
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ookay, that is one good title.

Charecters : Wings, sub-div and virtual mirror save countless hours. And the fact that its soo easy to use!

Guns : I have a tie between truespace and Wings, i think i will switch to wings soon though because im getting the hang of it. (i could never actually make anything with Truespace)But Truespace is good (v.3.2) but its old and it has clunky controls so i am using wings for my models.

A tip: Get both wings and truespace (both free), and use truespace to render your objects, because wings is really bad at rendering. Also truespace is a good program to convert objects between the formats (3ds/x) and retain everything.


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3ds max for characters cause of biped and character studio comeing with version 7.

God modelled man in his own reference image.
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and version 8 having very good uvw mapping features

snag - it will set up back a bit, okay, a hell of a lot, but get the student version, tis cheaper


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If money is no object, then Rhino3D is ideal for mechanical modelling. You can use nurbs objects to combine extruded shapes to form your model, cut holes, and then convert to polygons. The best thing is the sheer speed that you can build models, like with good reference material you set the bitmaps to the camera views and basically trace the lines.

I use it for everything although I'd say Milkshape was pretty damn good for character models.


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Posted: 24th Dec 2005 17:22
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First off, please avoid putting anything along the lines of

GUN ==+read this!+== CHAR

In a thread title.

Secondly, there is no "best modeler" for -ANYTHING- Maya, Max, Lightwave, Rhino, C4D, XSI|Softimage are all industry standard, feature packed modellers, but of course for the "best" your going to paying a good deal of money (about $7,500 for the full version of Maya)

The "best" modeler for you is what *you* are happy modelling with. I like Milkshape 3D, it only costs $20 and it is perfect for lowpoly modeling thus ideal for DB stuff. A lot of users here like Wings3D, Blender, Anim8or or any other package because they are Free and thats their budget (although I cant see how you couldnt scrap up $20 bucks for MS3D, just mow a couple lawns or shovel a couple driveways if your young)

The only way you can find out what the best software is, is to go out and try them all for yourself. There are plenty of sticky threads at the top of this forum that have links to lots of free modellers, lots of tutorials and many other interesting and useful tidbits of information that will help you get started.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2005 19:17
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ok. wings sounds good, but i can berly make a cube! milkshape sounds good, but i cant do nothing with it. any good tutorials?
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Posted: 24th Dec 2005 20:20 Edited at: 24th Dec 2005 20:24
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I know a great modeller for guns, Quikly modeller, very well made in Dark Basic Pro, made by one of our forum member, Kangaroo 2, which is easy to use and makes most models playing a around with simple cubes, and editing them,

http://www.quikly.com
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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=67573&b=5
here is a screenshot with a gun made in Quikly Model



And well TGC members can get it for free, but with a limited stock if you PM Kangaroo through the quikly forums, I'm still waiting for my own copy, but otherwise it would be a mere £10

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sounds good, but i dont have $??.?? to spend on something like that. i need more "powerful" stuff. are there any good GUN tutorials for wings3D or anim8or??(i find it exactly the same as milkshape, almost)
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Posted: 24th Dec 2005 23:24
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Thats a sexy gun Sepp

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Quote: "Thats a sexy gun Sepp"


ITS NOT MINE!!! I just took the screenshot straight from the quikly website, Kangaroo 2 actually modelled it as well as programming the program, me, all I've made in his program is a cube lol

@DB newbe, Well if you sign up to the Quikly forums with your TGC and a link to prove you're a TGC member and your email address, with his offer you can get it for free, but its only free to a limited amount of members, and is incredible easy to use (According to roo ) So you don't need money If you get in there quick dude

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Posted: 25th Dec 2005 00:13 Edited at: 25th Dec 2005 00:14
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Oh and i have one tip about trying things out, before i could actually model anything i did try out all the free ones and i noticed something. I got easily discouraged because although i could follow tutrials i could never do anything alone. And every time i tried a software (wings, anim8or, blender), i would quit in a 2-3 days because of this. It was basically i wanted results fast. So if you are trying a modelling software, i would recommend you read one or two tutorials to learn the controls (wings is really easy to pick up), then , only use really general tutorials (like the ones i posted above), so that you can see what needs to be done, but you have to use your own thinking to get there. It makes you a much better modeller.

oh and if your using wings, Ctrl+Alt+Z is your best friend..that and the 'C' key.


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i find milkshape can turn 2D images into 3D models in like a half hour.

see myo ther post:
new models - FREE - help out now!
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There are loads of apps, and there will be at least one that'll suit you and a perfect one unfortunately, a lot of the really good ones cost money, but you still got the easy lot to learn from without the money,

wings is good, I barely used it, when I tried it, I didn't feel there was much control, but thats me and 10 minutes of using it , anim8or was the program I started with.

you should do what Gokz did I wish I did and I tell most people to do, try out as much as you can and find out which you like best, Wings might no be for you dude

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Posted: 25th Dec 2005 00:51 Edited at: 25th Dec 2005 00:52
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If you like wings and want more control Silo is the one that would suit you,its a truly nice modeler IMHO.
http://www.nevercenter.com/

It costs $109 but is well worth it.
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Yup Silo rules, you'll kill me if I say ZBrush is better so I won't , but I think this dude wants a free app

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MetasequoiaLE is good and free.

http://www.metaseq.net/english/index.html
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This sounds like a very promising project!!!!!!!!!!!!

Milkshape 3d for both. I would say Max, but that's a little too high leauge for someone who seriously thinks that they can accomplish next-generation graphics while not even being properly literate.
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Wings 3D is good, but all modeling programs require extensive practice, patience, and literacy

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MOdS LOCK THIS PLZ!!

hopefully locked soon for lack of manners.
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Why are you locking it? Some constructive flaming was going on here...

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=D
Quote: "some constructive FLAMING was going on here"


ahh, flamer!

MoDS PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!
(on owners request...?)
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Ah well, I have departed my mega flaming ways. I lightly singed you...nothing harsh. It's like the difference between getting your finger burnt and having a flaming torch shoved into your balls.

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To be honest I wouldn't say this thread had much flaming in it, the flaming I see is only constructive, to point out points that seem stupid to people, and well in a way the majority wouldn't or shouldn't be offended by, but emphasises it. I tend not to approve of flaming, but from some of this threads, you're beginning to dig yourself into it, my advice is slow down. You have plenty of time to learn to model, and well, to most people the project, sounds like a lie or a distortion of truth, hence one persons sarcastic comment.

Also, most of the threads I've replied to today have been yours dude, take what I've said in those threads, and what Big Add and I have said in Big Add's thread into account, and progress from there, and please try to be realistic dude, people on this forum hate it when people are too unrealistic, and so they flame.

Please don't take any comments I've said or anyone else has said offensively, as they are constructive in their own way

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Well said m8!

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lol thanks

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The best Modeler..
Your Imagination...

models char or guns
FREE is ANIM8OR and easy..

ANIMATION
MilkShape

UVText
LITUNWARP (FREE Edition)

PAINT
DEEP PAINT 3D

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